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NASB | John 7:39 But this He spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were to receive; for the Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 7:39 But He was speaking of the [Holy] Spirit, whom those who believed in Him [as Savior] were to receive afterward. The Spirit had not yet been given, because Jesus was not yet glorified (raised to honor). |
Subject: filled and upon mean the same thing |
Bible Note: Hi Itiswritten, Sorry I could not answer you last night as I spent a lot of it in the emergency room of a hospital again. I'll try and answer you now, after sleeping all day. I don't want to argue about anything, either. I certainly believe in the triune God and believe in the Holy Spirit as a Person. But we differ in that I do rely on capitalization to decide what the meaning of a word is in a text. I believe that the word of God speaks of the Spirit and the spirit, a man and the Man, a rock and the Rock, etc, etc, and each man has to test the spirits. Each man has to test the words to determine what He believes about God. For instance, the Jehovah's Witness has tested the word and has decided that Jesus was a god [sic]. I, on the other hand, as one relying on capitalization have determined that the Word was God and this One was in the beginning with God. Also as a counter of pronouns of Deity, I would give praise to the triune God that the pronoun total for John 1:1-3 is divisible by three. I believe that there must have been discussions similar to ours since biblical times. I believe that the differences in manuscripts, ones which omit pronouns or add pronouns of Deity are indications that "these things" have been discussed. 1) 1 Corinthians 2:9, "but just as it is written, "Things which eye has not seen and ear has not heard, and which have not entered the heart of man, all that God has prepared for those who love (Him)."" The manuscripts differ for the next verse, verse 10. For example, the NKJ has five pronouns and the NASB only four. This difference is not one of translation but rather is one of interpretation and number of pronouns. What do you think? How do you interpret this passage? How would you look at a comparison of verse 11 with 16? Have we received the Spirit or the spirit? Are we taught by the Spirit or the Holy Spirit? 2) Cor 2:13, NASB, "which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words." 1 Cor 2:13, NKJ, "These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual." I believe that he who is spiritual needs to discern all things. I believe also that each of us can not know (discern) the thoughts of the other. The only way to know is to discuss these things. 1 Cor 2:15,16. From the heart, Ray |