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Bible Question:
Hi Sharp! Have you been arguing or debating? :-) I understand where you are coming from with your questions. The problem is that they don't prove that Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are modes as opposed to three Persons with in a Trinity. Everything that can be said about the Father, can be said about the Son, can be said about the Holy Spirit (with the exception of the incarnation). I have no problem with Jesus being the first and the last and the Father being the first and the last, because they are both God. The only point we seem to disagree on is whether or not Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are only modes in which God operates, or three distinct, but equal persons within the Godhead. I have been honestly trying to deal with your questions. I would like to ask you to explain your view of John 14:23 for me. As a modalist, how can Jesus speak of 'we' when He says that the Father and the Son will come to dwell within a believer? If there is no plurality within the Godhead, there could be no we! I'm looking forward to your response. I may not be able to reply until later though, I am getting ready to go to bed. I have been up all night! God Bless, Tim Moran |
Bible Answer: Tim take a look at this and give me your opinion! Thanks for your sweet spirit concerning this! God Bless. I Timothy 2:5 puts it, For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. In John 10:30 Jesus said, I and my Father are one. Does that mean unity? Well, I ask if that was all he meant then why did the Jews pick up stones to stone him? v. 31 Jesus asks them why v. 32, and they answered him, because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God v. 33. They understood this as claiming to be God, not claiming to be in accordance with him. So if I and the Father are one means I am God, then he must be God the Father. Some Trinitarians have tried to draw attention to the neuter gender of the word one in this passage (Gk - hen), claiming that this means that they are one in unity. However, this is the same word used in passages such as Eph. 4:4 where it says that there is one Spirit, and no one would argue that this means only one in unity. In Matthew 28:19, Jesus commanded the disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Yet they routinely baptized only in Jesus' name.Either they were mistaken, or they understood the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost to be Jesus. Surely the apostles didn't disobey their Lord. I could give you scriptures to show that Jesus is indeed God, however Joe!, we already agree on that supposedly but here are a few that show that he is specifically the Father who is the only God, Mal 2:10; I Cor 8:6. 1. Jesus said that He would send the comforter to us John 16:7, but He also said the Father would send the comforter John 14:26. 2. The Father alone can draw men to God John 6:44 , yet Jesus said He would draw all men John 12:32. 3. Jesus will raise up all believers in the last day John 6:40, yet God the Father quickens gives life to the dead and will raise us up Romans 4:17 I Corinthians 6:14. 4. Christ is our sanctifier Ephesians 5:26, yet the Father sanctifies us Jude 1. We can easily understand all of this if we realize that Jesus has a dual nature. He is both Spirit and flesh, God and man, Father and Son. As our Lord said elsewhere, things I have spoken to you in figurative language an hour is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but will tell you plainly of the Father John 16:25. Or as Zechariah the prophet said, "And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one" Zech. 14:9. |