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NASB | John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him [giving him the desire to come to Me]; and I will raise him up [from the dead] on the last day. |
Subject: Is the quote presumptuous? |
Bible Note: knucklehead, No, I don't believe that John 3:36 is a caution against losing one's salvation. It is simply denoting that eternal life is based upon "belief" in the Son and that "unbelief", wrath or eternal separation from God. I think you're reading too much into the text:-) In answer to your query "Are you saying that such reliance cannot cease for someone "saved?" I'm not saying so much that someone's reliance could not cease, but rather what examples can you provide to demonstate that this has happened? "Let me ask you this: At what point then is one saved, and conversely at what point does someone lose their salvation? (cf Tit. 3:5) By the way, I DO BELIEVE! I have placed my faith in the One who is faithful, the Lord Jesus Christ. It is on Him that my eternity rests and Him alone. The more fruitful disposition of this debate might be better left to the "Search" function of this Forum. I'm thoroughly convinced that your arguments will not cause me to change my beliefs at this point:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |