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NASB | John 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 4:23 "But a time is coming and is already here when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit [from the heart, the inner self] and in truth; for the Father seeks such people to be His worshipers. |
Subject: prazn, what is the Biblical reference? |
Bible Note: You said " The info that you give about yourself in your profile is quite impressive! Since you are so apparently knowledgeable about the greek meaning of scriptures, will you please let me know what the following Scriptures mean in the greek?" ... I am the a Greek expert (Tim Moran is), but I do use it in my study. It aids me in my study. "We have this treasure in earthen vessels that the excellence of the power may be of God and not of us." -- 2 Cor 4:7 ... The Greek says ecomen de; to;n qhsauro;n tou'ton ejn ojstrakivnoiß skeuvesin, ina hJ uJperbolh; th'ß dunavmewß h\/ tou' qeou' kai; mh; ejx hJmw'n: ... The context starts in verse 1. "This treasure" is the gospel (vv 3, 4). We are the earthen vessels. "...we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered." - Romans 8:26 ... The Greek says JWsauvtwß de; kai; to; pneu'ma sunantilambavnetai th'/ ajsqeneiva/ hJmw'n: to; ga;r tiv proseuxwvmeqa kaqo; dei' oujk oidamen, ajlla; aujto; to; pneu'ma uJperentugcavnei stenagmoi'ß ajlalhvtoiß: ... The context starts in verse 22. - whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now (vs 22), - we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body (vs 23) ... this is not about prayer You said " That last Scripture seems to imply that Almighty God can even understand the unuttered "groanings" of the Holy Spirit. But, I could be wrong..." ... You are correct, but this is what the Holy Spirit does ... not by our lips. I love, not just adore, my Savior. I have experienced true intimacy with Him. |