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NASB | John 3:11 "Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 3:11 "I assure you and most solemnly say to you, we speak only of what we [absolutely] know and testify about what we have [actually] seen [as eyewitnesses]; and [still] you [reject our evidence and] do not accept our testimony. |
Bible Question: Who exactly is Jesus referring to as the we and our in this verse? |
Bible Answer: Hi Bows 44, John 3:11 Since Jesus had not died for mankinds sins yet, or been raised from the dead and ascended into heaven to sit at God's right hand, and the Holy Ghost had not yet been sent from God the Father, through Jesus his Son, to indwell believers, no one had been "born again" yet. This was called the glorification of Jesus. John 7:38-39 Jesus said, "He that believes on me, as the scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. (But this he spake of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was NOT YET given (why?) because that Jesus was NOT YET glorified.)" I Cor 12:13 For by one (Holy) Spirit we are all baptized into one body (of Christ Eph 1:20-23), whether we be Jews or Gentiles,whether we be bond or free; and have been ALL made to drink into one (Holy) Spirit. Jesus is the baptizer in the Holy Spirit. John 1:33 And I (John the Baptist) knew him (the Messiah, Jesus) not: but he (God the Father) that sent me (John the Baptist) to baptize with WATER, the same (God the Father) said unto me (John the Baptist), Upon whom you shall see the (Holy) Spirit descending, and remaining on him (Jesus), the same (Jesus) is he which baptizes with the Holy Ghost. (34) And I (John the Baptist)saw, and bare record (witness) that this (Jesus) is the Son of God. (36) and looking upon Jesus as he walked, he said, Behold the Lamb of God! God the Father had promised to send another Comforter, the Holy Spirit, Jesus was to baptize believers in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Ghost then indwells the believer, with evidence...Acts 2:4.. God never changes, his word never changes, what he did then he does now...Malachi 3:6 I am the Lord, I change not, therefore you sons of Jacob are not consumed. The name Jacob means deceiver. Jesus Christ, the same (never changing), yesterday, today and forever. Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ, the express (exact) image of God. Heb 1:3 (Never changing) God the Father never changes, Jesus Christ never changes, the Holy Ghost never changes, they are one..I John 5:7 in spirit and in truth..John 4:24. God has set in motion his format from before the foundation of the world, this has always been, is now, and will always be his method of doing things because he never changes. His plan is good. His method is good. His ways, means and directions are good. He never has to change anything because it is all good. People have to RECEIVE what he has provided, like he provided it, for the purpose he provided it, for their benefit and God's glory! That is where the arguments come in, mankind thinks they know more than God, and that God doesn't know what he is talking about because they don't understand, or do not want to understand what he is saying, and run off with their own ideas, instead of taking his word of truth for what it is, HIS WORD OF TRUTH. God is the source of truth. There is no truth apart from God's truth. All the rest is mankind's speculation "about" God's word of truth. Jesus said, John 17:17 Sanctify them through your truth (God the Father) your word is truth. God's word is everlasting life (never changing) Jesus said..John 12:50 And I know that his (God the Father's) commandment is life everlasting; whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me so I speak. John 3:11 then is Jesus speaking about what God has told him to say from Genesis throughout eternity, by the Holy Spirit, which God baptized Jesus with, while he was walking in his "earth suit", i.e. his human body...for what purpose? Heb 2:14-15 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same (flesh and blood body); that through death he might DESTROY him (satan) that had the power of death, that is the devil; and DELIVER them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage (i.e. bondage is fear..see Ro 8:15, that God HAS NOT given us..II Tim 1:7 but has given us the Spirit of Faith! Whatsoever is not of faith is sin Ro 14:23, satan is the author of sin John 8:44-47, Jesus is the way, truth, life and the author of it. John 14:6) So before the resurrection no one had been born again and Jesus was speaking of God the Father, God the Son (himself) and God the Holy Ghost. I John 5:7 they are one...He was setting up mankind to receive the Holy Spirit, and to destroy satan by his truth. Always in Christ, C.S.M. |