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Subject: No Fruit? |
Bible Note: Hi Brad: What I did say, was. I found some interesting verses, that might shed a different light, on how we are to take what we read. Please excuse my ignorance, but has everyone in this Forum seen, and understood these verses before? I will admit, until today, I did not. They surprised me. From now on, when I read I will keep them in mind. If the point of study, is to divide the word of God Righteously. Then I will have to go over everything I believe, and reapply this new information. What I am talking about is, they (the Apostles)had the responsibility of establishing the Church. (not us) Did Jesus tell them things, that they alone needed, in order for them to do that work? That we as Believers, Christians, Followers, Disciples have combined with other verses, to the Church in general, thereby giving us a wrong, BELIEF. (understanding) I for one would like to know, if I am following something that could cause me some difficulty in some way. In Answer: 1) I do not believe, the Church is Israel. 2) The ministry given to Paul, was the same as for the other 12. He said himself, "As one born, out of due season" Hope this clears things up. GOD BLESS Jim |