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NASB | John 13:6 So He *came to Simon Peter. He *said to Him, "Lord, do You wash my feet?" |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | John 13:6 When He came to Simon Peter, he said to Him, "Lord, are You going to wash my feet?" |
Subject: Whose baptism? |
Bible Note: Dear Andrew Jr., Thank you for your response. Regarding your referrence to 1Sam 13:9, Saul took it upon himself to offer unto God, for guidance on what he should do not as a sacrifice. Saul's offence came in disobedience to the word of God, the word which came through Samuel in 1Sam 10:8, where Samuel told Samuel to goto Gilgal and wait for Samuel for 7 days. Saul did not wait, but panicked when he saw the Hebrews leave him and he was exposed to the Phillistine army. Sauls offence was disobedience to Gods word through his lack of faith in waiting for an appointed time. As I stated above Saul was seeking guidance not forgiveness. People everyday who have been baptized or born from above by the Holy Spirit have doubts and lapses in their faith through thoughts of doubt alone, can we then conclude that they are not truly born from above because of lapses in faith? You state,"Saul was not baptized of the Spirit because he was not dead to sin." I have always believed to be dead to sin meant that you no longer choose to sin but still sin unconsciously, therefore we are all sinners even still as believers. Also, you state,"Being born again means that a change has happened." Please slowly read the following, 1 Sam 10:9 9 And it was so, that when he had turned his back to go from Samuel, God gave him another heart: and all those signs came to pass that day. KJV A change happened to Saul, God gave him another heart according to the above verse. Then you state,"Now Saul had not reveive the gift of the Holy Spirit but rather the Spirit overcame him temperarily because he had not been born again." I would contend that Saul indeed was born from above(again). In 1Pet 1:23, we are told that we are born again by the word of God as follows, 1 Peter 1:23 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. KJV Saul was shown the word of God by Samuel in 1Sam 9:27 which preceeded the Spirit of God coming upon him in 1Sam 10:10. This did not happen, except but by the word of God and by the word of God alone does it ever happen. Every single baptism in the Bible is always preceeded and brought on by the written or spoken word of God. Not one baptism can be found in the Scriptures without the word of God. Then you state,"This process happens in the twinkling of eye because God does not do things in parts or incomplete." This process does not happen in the twinkling of an eye. The words," in a twinkling of an eye", are only used in the Bible in 1COr 15:52, to let us know that some people will change into a spiritual body from a flesh body at the last trump and is not in reference to baptism. Finally you state,"John the baptist said unto the Pharisees the he baptized with water only, but Jesus would baptize with fire." To this I ask is their a difference between water and fire? Are they not both the word? Jer 5:14 14 Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them. KJV Jer 23:29 29 Is not my word like as a fire? saith the LORD; and like a hammer that breaketh the rock in pieces? KJV Prov 13:14 14 The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death. KJV Eph 5:26-27 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. KJV Bless you, Love Fountain Eph 2:8 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: KJV Rom 10:17 17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. KJV |