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NASB | Luke 18:11 "The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 18:11 "The Pharisee stood [ostentatiously] and began praying to himself [in a self-righteous way, saying]: 'God, I thank You that I am not like the rest of men--swindlers, unjust (dishonest), adulterers--or even like this tax collector. |
Subject: Would this be biblically accurate? |
Bible Note: Angel, I also must politely disagree with you. Although all of the life illustrations that you give are quite valid, I suggest that they only tend to apply on a more conscious superficial level. In other words, something much deeper is going on with these kids on a subconcious and/or unconscious level. To think that kids are violently assaulting each other on the mere basis of obtaining a pair of shoes would, in my opinion, be rather naive. This may be true on a mere conscious level with these kids, but I greatly suggest that deeper issues are transpiring within them, of which they are not even aware. Nor do I dismiss the involvement of ego in the slightest. Rather, I suggest that these core subconscious and/or unconscious thought modifiers only serve to amplify the ego-complex that your scripture references mention. You have indeed presented a nice list of very fine scriptures that demonstrate the reality of sin and human ego, but I was never really refuting this reality. Rather, my original references were toward dynamics that unerringly transpire on a deep psychological level. These deep transpirings do not, however, negate the reality of ego and sin. I view it as a rather dualistic philosophy that human suffering and ego cannot and/or do not transpire simultaneously. Rather, I suggest that human suffering and the egocentric sin nature are indeed inseparable. These children that you mention are obviously suffering quite deeply and will continue to suffer into adulthood. Even if their conscious minds shut out the awareness of their own suffering from their early youth and for decades to come. Nonetheless, the deep inner suffering will manifest in the ways that you have suggested, and beyond the perpetrators' own conscious awareness. Again, if we were speaking strictly on a conscious level, I would have to wholeheartedly agree with you. However, I don't believe anyone's behaviors originate from strictly a conscious level. - Jeremiah 17 9 "The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it? (NAS95) Jeremiah 17 9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? (KJV) - Blessings, Reighnskye |