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NASB | Luke 11:13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?" |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 11:13 "If you, then, being evil [that is, sinful by nature], know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask and continue to ask Him!" |
Subject: Do we receive *holy *spirit as a gift? |
Bible Note: Hi Angel, I find that your references of John 14:16-17 and John 1:10-12 are good comparisons. However, I am (along with being a capitalizer) a counter of pronouns of Deity. Thus, I would encourage you to consider using a version that capitalizes so that you can see more easily the pronouns to compare. I see two things to consider. The word "Paraclete" is translated "Helper" in the NASB. The marginal note for John 14:16 says, [Gr. Paracletos, one called alongside to help; or Intercessor]. We might note that they use a lower case "one" called alongside to help. As a counter of pronouns, if I chose to accept "one" then I would want to find a replacement pronoun. That pronoun could be easily be "and He will be in you". If we choose to leave "Helper" capitalized (as One [sic] called alongside to help), then I could leave the NASB as it is translated, "because He abides with you and will be in you." Please note the varying number of pronouns in the various translations for John 14:16-17. So is this a helper or a Helper? Is Jesus a man or a Man? "Of His fullness we have all received, and grace upon grace", John 1:16. Yet the passage goes on and says that "No man has seen God at any time." I understand from the verse that this Man has explained the Spirit. I contrast John 1:18, "the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father", with John 10:30, "I and the Father are one." The word "Helper" in the Old Testament is a difficult word to interpret and determine in my mind for "counting". Just as God is a rock and the Rock, He is a helper and the Helper. What I am considering with you is whether He is a holy spirit and the Holy Spirit as well. 2) Your reference of 1 Corinthians 6:19 (correction from your verse 9) is also a good one. For that passage I see the need for considering whether to include for verse 20, "and in your spirit which are of God". Compare the NASB and the NKJ. From the heart, Ray |