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NASB | Luke 11:13 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?" |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Luke 11:13 "If you, then, being evil [that is, sinful by nature], know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask and continue to ask Him!" |
Subject: Do we receive *holy *spirit as a gift? |
Bible Note: Hi Hiskid84, I welcome your comments and Scripture references to consider. I put the Holy Spirit in upper case when talking of the Person. What I am considering is whether we need to capitalize all the occurances found in Scripture. Concerning Romans 8: We can look at some different interpretations of the (s)Spirit. For Romans 8:1, the different manuscripts vary in whether they include "who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit", NKJ. If the phrase is ommitted as in the NASB, what it amounts to is that there is one less pronoun to count; in other words we can interpret it as saying "who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the *spirit." Thus it allows for an interpretation and an understanding that there is the spirit and also the Spirit. Remember that the phrase is stated in verse 4, "who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." So our first consideration is whether we can walk according to the spirit as well as the Spirit. 2) Verse 6, NKJ, "For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace." Verse 6, NASB, "For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace." We have to decide whether the Scripture is talking about being spiritually minded or be thinking of the Spirit. Is it speaking of spirit or Spirit? 3) I see the possibility of Scripture speaking of both and I want to interpret it correctly. For verse 9, I have penciled in my personal copy a lower case spirit as well as the upper case when it speaks of the Spirit of God. Verse 9, my interpretation for what it is worth: "However, you are not in the flesh but in the *spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him." Verse 10, I go with the NASB, "If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit [sic] is alive because of righteousness." (The NKJ interprets it as "but the Spirit is life"...) Verse 11 has another option for "counting pronouns" in that some manuscripts speak of Christ and others write of Christ Jesus. Verse 15 offers the interpretation choice of whether we have received the Spirit of adoption, NKJ, or whether we have received the spirit of adoption, NASB. I hope you see, Karen, that I am not against capitalizing the Holy Spirit, but am merely suggesting that there is a holy spirit in Scripture as well. You suggest that Christ is "a gift as well'. You also speak of "this awesome Gift from God". I see your point of Jesus being a gift for we remember John 3:16 especially. I don't believe, however, that there is a Scripture that speaks of "receiving Christ". Jesus is the gift of God according to John 4:10. We need to determine whether this One who speaks to the woman is only an "it". But what He offers to her and to us in that passage is living water. I believe that we can even consider putting in lower case the "spirit" found in John 3:3, "Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the *spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God." Thanks for considering these things with me. Please look at my post to JCrichton as well. From the heart, Ray |