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NASB | Ecclesiastes 6:10 ¶ Whatever exists has already been named, and it is known what man is; for he cannot dispute with him who is stronger than he is. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ecclesiastes 6:10 ¶ Whatever exists has already been named [long ago], and it is known what [a frail being] man is; for he cannot dispute with Him who is mightier than he. |
Subject: Such thing as a choice? |
Bible Note: Dear Brother Tim, Thank you for disavowing open theism. It clarifies things. I believe you would also disavow the teachings of the other two groups. The ten verses you quoted were all narrative. Whether I like them or not would have no bearing on their validity as sources from which to derive doctrine. However, my like or dislike would probably be just as solid as using an emoticon wink to sweep away millenia of Christian teaching. The rule for not building doctrine from narrative is well grounded. Perhaps you should strike out at those roots before building further theology. You asked, "why is it necessary to quote someone about these passages. Aren't the Scriptures sufficient?" (sic) I'll answer the first question, but the second question employs a logical fallacy. The doctrine of the sufficiency of Scripture is not in question here, and, in fact, it has nothing to do with the issue at hand. Such baiting is uncharitable and misleading. It is reminiscent of the "Do you still beat your wife?" kind of question. It is unworthy of a believer and it demonstrates a fundamental disrespect for the brethren. Christianity is not about being a lone ranger, seeking out truth in a vacuum. That kind of idea comes out of the Godless philosophers of men like Kant and Nietzsche. God has given us His word (Psalm 68:11, Hebrews 1:1-2), the Holy Spirit (John 14:26), teachers (Ephesians 4:11, 1 Corinthians 12:28), and one another (Galatians 5:13, 1 Peter 1:22, 1 Thessalonians 5:14). Error can, has, and will enter the church (Matthew 7:15, Acts 20:30, ). Peter tells us that one of the characteristics of those who will deceive are that they are "unlearned" (2 Peter 3:15). They will teach things contrary to what we have learned through the prophets, apostles, by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 3:5). Furthermore, you and I are simple pseudonyms on a computer screen. We have no authority nor reputation of study and learning that is corroborated by anyone else. Although it represents a great deal of self-confidence to affirm that one doesn't need anyone else, it does not carry a great deal of weight... now, if we were talking about finger painting or poetry or something... maybe! ;-) Consequently, if someone comes up with something brand new, novel, and contrary to accepted teaching, it will always become suspect. We are called to be lights in the world, not inventors. Consequently, we test all things and search the Scriptures (plural) to see if they be so. By this means we guard our minds and eschew apostasy and heresy. You wrote, "Contrary to the quotes you presented in your previous post, the text actually says that God repented." The proper course, therefore, is not to discover how the truth can be harmonized. Not embrace something that disavows the didactic statements in which God has revealed His true nature. You wrote, "It is a bizarre day when accepting what multiple verses actually say is considered unorthodox! :-( Oh well!" When the orthodox teaching is rejected for the bizarre in the face of multiple verses and the light of scholarly commentary, it is not a matter to be tossed aside with a flippant "oh well." Many others are reading our words and the Lord will hold us accountable as stewards of the truth. In the absence of anything but pure Arian epistemology, nothing remains to deliberate. I have answered your questions. In Him, Doc |