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NASB | Ecclesiastes 12:7 then the dust will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Ecclesiastes 12:7 then the dust [out of which God made man's body] will return to the earth as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it. |
Subject: At what moment do we go to heaven? |
Bible Note: Hi Mark (and others,) I am not placing experience higher than scripture, I am supplimenting scripture with my experiences. The original post that started this long thread had both scriptures and my experience. I was stating what I believed based on those two things together. If others believe otherwise and wish to share what they believe and why, then they can and do. This is what this forum is all about..sharing what we belive based on scriptures and whether some want to admit it or not experiences. Our experiences have a large bearing on what we choose to believe or not. This is a fact. Mark...as for not being able to discern valid experiences or not, the Bible says: Matthew 7:16-18 "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. "A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. If you could take the time to get to know me personnally, you would find that I am passionately in love with Jesus and serve Him with all of my heart. I can pass the test that someone else out lined...I declare Jesus as Lord and Savior, born of a virgin, crucified dead and buried and risen again. I have confessed with my mouth the Lord Jesus with faith in my heart, been water baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit and am therefore born again. You would find that I am a good tree bearing good fruit, therefore I can not according to this scripture bear bad fruit. The fruit of my experience is Christ honoring and therefore good fruit. Testifying falsely would be bad fruit. Satan would not give an experience that honored Jesus. So based on these facts, you should be able to know that the experience is valid. I also hope that somewhere in my words someone can find help and encouragement and a closer walk with Jesus. I hope people can look beyond the semantics to the heart of the matter which is to share, encourage and grow. Your Sister in Christ, Bows44 |