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NASB | Psalm 19:1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Psalm 19:1 The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And the expanse [of heaven] is declaring the work of His hands. [Rom 1:20, 21] |
Subject: special revelation vs general revelation |
Bible Note: Graceful You never address the real issue. You rightly said You will never let experience judge God's word. Okay where does God's word say if we have enough faith we will never die? Because in effect that is what your saying. If you have enough faith you can overcome anything even physical death since physical death is caused by disease. I would just like to see that in scripture. You talk about a personal relationship with God yet yours is a relationship built on teachings of man rather than of God. Men and women have built upon the teachings of Bosworth, Kenyon, and Hagin learning that they can manipulate people to build congregations and raise money. You say your is faith is built on scripture, yet I will guess you have read many of Hagin's books, watch Copeland and Meyer and many others on TV. Have you ever read anything from another point of view? If your interested in the truth why not read the books I and others have suggested to you? If your faith is so weak it can not withstand being subjected to these books then there is a real problem with it. You keep saying I don't talk scripture to you, you have never provided a false scripture however you do take a single scripture and use it to base your point. I think we will both agree this nation is committing great harlotry in it's desire for personal pleasure going as far as aborting babies when they are inconvenient. I could then take this passage "Go, take yourself a wife of harlotry And children of harlotry, For the land has committed great harlotry By departing from the Lord." And say every true believer should marry a whore. Is the scripture a lie? No! Does this not fit the situation? Yes! Well what is wrong why can't we assume that all men should go marry a whore. The fact that God was talking to Hosea in Hosea 1:2 and not setting church doctrine. A come back is God is not a respecter of persons so if he said it to Hosea He is saying it to me. That is not the case, God spoke directly to Hosea for him to do something it simply does not apply to us today. You say I know that, and I would never do that. However that is exactly what Word of Faith has done. They have ripped scripture out of context and shouting God is no respecter of personage and by faith all things are possible and tat-da they have a captive audience. One that is afraid to read something that might expose the truth having been told that there are those trying to steal your faith. You say keep come back to Paul's thorn in flesh and state your case that we can not tell if that was physical or not. Your right (however strong evidence does point to it being physical) but you ignore Paul's admonishment to Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach problems. Why didn't Paul just pray and/or tell Timothy he needed more faith? When the famine came to Jerusalem we see Paul going through out Christendom of the time taking offerings to help the saints in Jerusalem. Why didn't he just go to the churches in Jerusalem and tell them if they had enough faith God would provide? Why did Paul go to the saints wasn’t he aware of the scripture that so many use that God will take the money of the unrighteous and give it the righteous? He should have claimed that and the unrighteous of Jerusalem would have poured out their money. Ask any preacher that teaches this doctrine where the money is coming from that he is using to pay for his house, his cars, his extravagant living and if he is honest he will have to answer from the saints NOT from the unrighteous. Your right God rewards and honors our faith and without faith it is impossible to please God. However misdirected faith is as bad as no faith at all. When we try to use our faith to manipulate God into giving us what we want we are in effect saying we know what is right better than you God. Isn't that what spoiled children do and say. God isn't raising spoiled children he is raising princes and princess, royal people, a holy nation. You have never been unfairly treated nor have you been attacked. What has been attacked is your refusal to seek the truth, to read what I and others have asked you to read, to reexamine the teachers that have gave you the teachings you carry. Do not declare your abuse, declare you refusal to seek the truth! And yes I will continue to warn others of your cultic teachings. EdB |