Subject: Can we not ask God to forgive another? |
Bible Note: It seems to me that Jesus is saying (in Luke 17:4, which has been referenced already in this conversation) "If he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him". Jesus is not teaching falsely when he says, “After this manner pray ye … ‘Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors" or “If you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you." We are to assume he is being consistent, and that what he said to Peter in Luke 17, he is saying to us all, that forgiveness presupposes repentance. I sincerely regret giving the impression that the conditions for forgiveness are my idea. It seems to be they are Jesus', and I got that impression from reading Ezekiel 33, Luke 13, Luke 17, Luke 24, Acts 17, 2 Peret 3, Revelation 2, etc. I do not assume that everyone is familiar with all of those passages, but I thought they might have read my previous posts within the thread and seen some of them before coming to that impression. |