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NASB | Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Genesis 6:4 There were Nephilim (men of stature, notorious men) on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they gave birth to their children. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown (great reputation, fame). [Num 13:33] |
Subject: Textual evidence from Genesis 6:4 |
Bible Note: Hi, Nolan! Good to hear from you. Not to dispute with you, but for the sake of clarification, may I say: 1) What I meant was that the events of Job probably occurred around the time of Abraham, 500 years BEFORE Moses. So Abraham (2000 B.C.), not Moses (1500 B.C.), was probably a contemporary of Job. . . . 2) There is no hard evidence on which to base the assumption that Moses was long since dead by the time of the writing of the book of Job. Moses may have been the author and, timewise, could have been the author of Job, though there is no evidence that Moses WAS the author of Job. It could have been someone else. Nowhere in Job does it tell us who the author was. When I looked it up, I found it also could have been Solomon (approx. 1,000 B.C.). . . . 3) I agree with you: it is possible that Moses and the author of Job are two different people. . . . 4) I agree with you, "That the same word used by Moses in Genesis 6:4 for 'sons' *could* be used by the author of Job in Job 1:6 to refer to angels." . . . 5) Please consider the following: "Gen 6:1-4 *sons of God.* The 'sons of God' may mean God's created, supernatural beings, who were no longer godly in character (6.3). Some commentators believe, however, that this expression refers to the 'godly line' of Seth and that 'daughters of humans' (v. 4 in the NRSV) refer to women from the line of Cain. Most likely the phrase refers to those descendants of Seth who trusted in the Lord but whose children intermarried with women descended from Cain. Those marriages were not with angels then, but between godly and ungodly human families. ANGELS NEITHER MARRY NOR ARE GIVEN IN MARRIAGE (emphasis by caps are mine) (Mt 22:30), so that this verse hardly applies to them. ... *Nephilim* are strong, violent, tyrannous men of great wickedness. It may well be that the explanation of these verses has been lost to us." (NRSV Harper Study Bible, Harold Lindsell, Ph.D., D.D., Grand Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan, 1991) . . . Again, my intent is to clarify my position, not to PROVE that I have the one right answer. If I knew for certain who wrote Job and who the sons of God in Gen 6:4 were, would I being hanging out at the Forum on a Tuesday morning? :-) |