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NASB | Genesis 1:14 ¶ Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; |
AMPLIFIED 2015 | Genesis 1:14 ¶ Then God said, "Let there be light-bearers (sun, moon, stars) in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be useful for signs (tokens) [of God's provident care], and for marking seasons, days, and years; [Gen 8:22] |
Subject: Plants were created, and then stars? |
Bible Note: My apologies if I put words in your mouth or twisted your meaning. The two statements you did make, "it sounds like the Dr. is simply imposing unbiblical premises on the Bible to make it conform to the current winds of scientific doctrine" and "if one starts with unbiblical premises, one will logically end up with unbiblical conclusions" logically imply Dr. Ross's conclusions are unbiblical. If this is not what you meant, please clarify. Also, I was not challenging your second premise, in fact I concur. But, I submit your first premise does not hold, therefore the inference about Dr. Ross' work does not follow. On your other point, showing the Bible to be accurate or otherwise consistent with our understanding of God's creation does NOT render the Word subordinate to anything. In fact, it does just the opposite. I grant that some may try to justify their unbelief in this way, but for Christians, this is not a problem, for they know Creation is God's most basic revelation of Himself to us, see Romans 1:20, we are called to "test everything", see 1 Thess 5:21, and to love God with all our heart, soul, strength and MIND, see Luke 10:27. The point is not that science proves the Bible, but rather that science, when done properly, as a means of looking at God's creation, cannot be contrary to the Word and in fact must agree. In the end, when all is known, we will see that there is no discrepancy between Creation and the Word, for such would imply a schism between what God does and what He says. Finally, I acknowledge the ultimate authority of the Word, yet I question your idea that the Bible alone is to be the rule of our faith and practice. The Bible itself tells us that the Holy Spirit is the agent of our faith and practice, see Luke 12:12, John 14:26, John 20:22. Perhaps the place we agree is seen in the old saying "Put your trust in the Lord, but always cut the cards!" That is, as a scientist, I am most skeptical of science in order that I can understand it and its fruit for what it is, a human attempt to see Creation. As a believer, I trust Christ completely because He is the Truth. Nothing science does can ever change that. |