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61 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 33026 | ||
Ezra…Another suggestion…..Punctuation :-) It is difficult when sentences and thoughts run together. | ||||||
62 | Is this a false prophet? | Job | Jensen | 33023 | ||
Dear prophet ezra brown….. So prophesying is not necessarily inspired by God. I did not know that. And that is very reassuring since I have heard and read some pretty stupid prophecy. And when the prophet announces “Thus sayeth the Lord…” he/she is always speaking with divine inspiration. And then you would agree that the prophet who claims divine inspiration and is proven wrong, by circumstance, or condition, or the Bible itself, is a false prophet and should not be feared (known) any further. Am I correct? God Bless….Jensen |
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63 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 33022 | ||
You are right!...God Bless....Jensen | ||||||
64 | Dancing? | Job | Jensen | 33021 | ||
Dear charis...You Wrote... "In case you did not hear me, I AGREE WITH YOU."....Finally. Thank you. I had begun to think that I lost all ability to communicate clearly. At least I'm not going as crazy as I had begun to think :-) And I want to thank you for the gentle tone of your reply. I am not familiar with the scope of the prophets’ role. I was focused on one thing: Those who make the claim that God speaks through them in one way or another. That being settled I will now become more familiar with this Gift. And, I will beware of the false prophet, and the false teacher, and the preacher who adds to the Bible, and I will increase my awareness or ability to see the Enemy for all that he is. Thanks for holding on. For defending the Faith is a constant in the world, especially today. God Bless….Jensen |
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65 | Truly searching for a prophet? | Job | Jensen | 32927 | ||
Dear charis...You wrote in referring to contemporary prophets.... " (a)And the words they speak will always be in accord with the Bible, and (b)be harmonious with the Spirit that speaks to your heart." To (a)I reply: And if they are not should we still consider them a prophet? And to (b) I reply: There is only One Spirit that speaks to my heart. And if the words are not harmonious should we still consider them a prophet? We will never get closer on this topic I'm afraid. But I know that we will once again find ourseleves in agreement :-) God Bless....Jensen |
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66 | Are you truly searching for a prophet? | Job | Jensen | 32925 | ||
OH! ..My goodness!… Dancing.. Dear Friend Charis….You are reading way too much between the lines. There are no between the lines to be found. I am an honest, up-front, no strings to my Faith kinda guy. I have put the question too simply for many of the followers of this thread. I can not make my position on ACCURACY, and accuracy only more clear…… OR…. You have avoided it out of fear of the Lord. I don’t know. I, for the life of me, can not understand why Christians are so liberal. Oh…not in their politics but in their Faith. What’s the point? Demand conservative values, be tolerant on Gods Word…..??? (:-)Please be open to the possibility that perhaps life in Japan has had an unintended or unexpected influence :-)) Dear friend charis, we must defend the Faith, set Biblical parameters as a Church. Not Churches. Accuracy. Accuracy when someone says “Thus sayeth the Lord…” How can we compromise? God Bless….Jensen |
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67 | Prophet idolatry? | Job | Jensen | 32826 | ||
Dear prophet ezra brown....You wrote... "i don't believe we as prophets should speak a thing unless we can back it with the word"....to which I reply...I thought it was God speaking through you. Who are you then to decide what God shall say to the people. Do you think God must back up His Word with the Bible? Please. God Bless....Jensen |
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68 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32825 | ||
Dear prophet ezra brown...Let me ask you one question for which I will expect a DIRECT answer. When you prophecy do you include the words..."The Lord says", or "The Lord wants you to know...", or, "Thus sayeth the Lord" or any similar type of a way to begin your prophecy? Just curious. :-) A direct answer is a simple yes or no. (You can answer sometimes so that I may know you will not answer directly to what we both know to be the truth of my question.) Then, if you reply I promise to muster all the civility I have to inquire further. I really only want to battle the Enemy, not you dear brother in Christ. Really!! God Bless....Jensen |
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69 | Truly searching for a prophet? | Job | Jensen | 32822 | ||
Dear Ray....You wrote ..... "If Jensen is looking for a perfect prophet he will not find one for there is none righteous, no not one".....to which I reply....I am not looking for a perfect prophet since I agree there are none. But our God IS perfect. I am looking for the prophet whose prophecies in the name of God are perfect. If they are not perfect (accurate) then they are NOT from a perfect God. Then the prophet should not be listened to on his next prophecy or, in this case, his next guess. Simple. Easy to understand. No equivocation. I think it is the only way to bring unity in this area of our Faith. Thanks for your consideration of my position. God Bless....Jensen |
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70 | Truly searching for a prophet? | Job | Jensen | 32820 | ||
Dear Charis....I have so much respect for your posts that I have done a lot of thiking on just how to reply. It may all be summed up thusly. You wrote to ask... "Brother, what is is you want to hear from a true prophet?"...to which my answer, my only answer, is and has always been, even from the original question,...ACCURACY! That is all. Accuracy. 100 percent accuracy...each and every time a prophet begins with "Thus sayeth the Lord..." I want accuracy. Or prophet indeed! God Bless....Jensen |
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71 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32818 | ||
Hello again dear prophet ezra brown… You Wrote... "...also 1corithians13:8 Charity never faileth:but wether there be prophecies, they shall fail" ......which you have taken to mean a reference to prophecy....but it is not....it is a comparison of the gift of love (or Christian Charity) to all the other gifts including prophecy. Context. And you wrote... "I could prophesy to someone the blessings of God and put a date on it but if they do not believe they will not receive".... Do you really think that God would depend on us to have what He said come true. That our actions will somehow either nullify or bring about what He says (through the Prophet)? You can put a date on it? I thought that God spoke through the Prophet. I thought that God would indicate a time frame. He can say "If my people will.......then I will....." He said it but He already knows what will happen, we are the ones who do not know what will happen. .....Goodness Gracious Man! Do you lay GUILT on the believer for the false prophecy from your own mouth. If the prophecy proves to be untrue then you are still in good stead as a prophet, it’s just those pesky weak believers that are the problem. Are you also a member of the "name it and claim it faith movement"? Study the context of the passages. That means understanding what has just transpired, or is being discussed, before the passage in question. Surely, one shared quality among the prophets is Biblical context. Sometimes some of us need to work a little harder on what is already before us. I have my own challenges...you have yours :-) God Bless....Jensen |
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72 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32317 | ||
Dear EProphet....Thank you and may God bless you and yours. Since you choose to not defend your position I will take that as a weakness of the position. Not that you are wrong...but that you are simply unable to persuade. Thanks for your input and I look forward to seeing your posts in the future. Perhaps we may find ourselves on the same side of a future issue that comes up on the Forum. I hope that my sometimes gruff manner will not be a stumbling block for your future participation. I love you in Christ Jesus. God Bless....Jensen |
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73 | Prophet idolatry? | Job | Jensen | 32315 | ||
Dear Charis....The singular thing that sets a prophet apart from the rest of His Church is the Prophecy itself. In all (most all) other areas we are alike. All speak the Word of God, all are sinners, none are perfect. We all share the various Gifts to one degree or another. And, for purposes of this discussion, all are faithful servants of God. I grant it all. I agree with you. Now if we may turn to the original question of accuracy: Please know again that it is my only question. Are you really saying that Biblical, historical, true Prophets of God were sometimes wrong (in their prophecies)? Is there Scriptural proof specifically that would support that thesis? Is it just a guess? (I remember Benny Hinn predicting that all homosexuals would be destroyed by fire by the year 199?. Should we listen to his other prophecies?) Is it okay to be sometimes wrong as a Prophet of God? I just can’t see that. However, for the sake of unity, I am open to persuasion. I admit it is a new field of Christianity for me. I do not take on the role of “fraud detector” but, gee whiz, sanity win out. This discussion reminds me of the one hosted by the Forum on numerology in the Bible some time ago. Bible Codes indeed!! I was open to it, with proof. But there was/is no proof. Is accuracy NOT a good predictor of the true Prophet? What else shall I use to know if a true Prophet is......well......true? I am beginning to consider that the Spiritual Gifts as outlined in Corinthians ended with the end of the Apostolic Age. Thanks for taking part in this discussion. God Bless....Jensen |
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74 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32283 | ||
Dear Charis…..I welcome your thoughts of course. You wrote:… “It seems (pardon me If I am wrong) that you are being awfully confrontive in your interrogation of our new forum friend.”….Guilty as charged. Confrontation in the defense of the Faith is no vice.(Please excuse the shameless pilfering from Barry Goldwater) You Wrote… “I think that modern prophets are about as accurate as historical prophets, providing that 1) they ARE prophets, and 2) they prophesy in the name of the Lord (Jesus).” Please correct me if I am wrong…..is there a biblical case in point where historical Prophets were wrong? I do not know. If there is no case of a historical Prophet being wrong, meeting the conditions you impose, then there is no case of a contemporary Prophet being wrong meeting those same conditions. I agree of course. So……a contemporary “prophet” that is wrong once, just once, is no prophet of God. Perhaps a dreamer, but no Prophet. The question then remains, and lives or dies on accuracy. You are familiar, I am certain, with the claims of “prophets” that periodically show up at various settings including this web site. Do we forget so soon the “prophets” of doom and destruction, and the fore-tellers of the Second Coming that abounded at the turn of the millenium? Only the Bereans were the nay sayers. You Wrote… “What is prophecy? Many are hung up on the 'prognosticator' aspect of this ministerial gift. According to my Bible, a prophet is a 'forth-teller' of God's word and will, not *necessarily* a future-teller.” …….Dear Friend Charis….What is the difference? Both speak to the future. If there is a semantic problem here it is most likely my error. Please correct me. You Wrote… “It seems that the real question is, "Why are so many charlatans called prophets?" No my friend. The only question I have is on accuracy, not gullibility, and the listener has no choice, especially in a Church setting dominated by false prophets. My concern is for the new Christian. Would a false prophecy lead the new believer to leave the Church by way of the back door? I think it would. In fact I think it SHOULD! A similar situation is found with the Gift of Tongues in some Churches….Would you agree that simple peer pressure leads to endless and meaningless babble at SOME Churches? How do you praise God while laughing and being silly? It must be an affront to our Lord. I am a witness to the silliness. There are churches that use a “primer phrase” that goes like this: “Shoulda Boughta Honda, Shoulda Boughta Honda, Shoulda Boughta Honda” repeated over and over until the Gift “kicks in.” Is that foolish to you? Do we let it go unchallenged, this impertinence to our beliefs in the Gifts? Peer pressure. Group psychology. Mass hypnosis. All are practiced by the stage magician. Well I am a bit over the top sometimes but I do so to defend the Faith: Not excuse the mockery and go on with my life. Make no waves etc. Christianity deals with facts not make believe. A prophet is no Prophet if he is wrong…just once. But I remain open to Scriptural support for the position that sometimes true Prophets of God are wrong. Got Milk? :-) And finally dear Charis you wrote… “Please remember that we do NOT have a record of every word that Isaiah spoke.” The implication of that statement is that perhaps, just perhaps, Isaiah had some false prophecies himself that we do not know of. That is icky. You really do not believe that any more than I. But you are a true peacemaker. And your sense of fair play is honed far greater than mine. God Bless….Jensen |
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75 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32260 | ||
Dear EProphet….Your gentleness is disarming. And your gentleness is alarming! Uncle Screwtape is proud of your effort. You are not claiming to be a prophet?…. but your screen name is EProphet? DT 18:21 “You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?" 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.”....Or, in other words, disregard anything he/she says and any advice he/she gives except that which is clearly based in Scripture. You Wrote… “You will find no spirit of fear in the Words of a true prophet. If it comes from God, it is of love.” I do not want to split hairs but… JNH 3:10 “When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had compassion and did not bring upon them the destruction he had threatened.”…sounds like a threat of destruction. And you will say “A threat based in love” no doubt. Well perhaps. AND ALSO….. 1KI 20:36 “So the prophet said, "Because you have not obeyed the LORD, as soon as you leave me a lion will kill you." And after the man went away, a lion found him and killed him.”… Dear friend…“…as soon as you leave me a lion will kill you”….is also from love? AND ALSO…. 1KI 20:41 Then the prophet quickly removed the headband from his eyes, and the king of Israel recognized him as one of the prophets. 42 He said to the king, "This is what the LORD says: “You have set free a man I had determined should die. Therefore it is your life for his life, your people for his people. " AND MORE……. 2CH 21:12-15 “…..This is what the LORD, the God of your father David, says: ……14 So now the LORD is about to strike your people, your sons, your wives and everything that is yours, with a heavy blow. 15 You yourself will be very ill with a lingering disease of the bowels, until the disease causes your bowels to come out.” "….If that were said by a modern prophet would you consider it Words with a “spirit of fear”? AND JUST ONE MORE OF MANY, MANY MORE…. 2CH 28:9-11 But a prophet of the LORD named Oded was there, and he went out to meet the army when it returned to Samaria. He said to them……..Send back your fellow countrymen you have taken as prisoners, for the LORD's fierce anger rests on you." Anger not Love. And finally you wrote, (and this takes the award for chutzpah) “However, a prophet may enlighten you on things in your life, or their life. Example; if a prophet came to you and said, "Jensen, there is something in your spirit that isn't right", they may sit down and talk to you about something specific in your life.” DT 18: 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded him to say, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, must be put to death." ….and surely the false prophet will die. There is not much difference between your example and a palm reader, if any. Perhaps a better example is needed :-) You Wrote… “Pay close attention to the events in the world. We are in the last days.” And …. “There are mighty things to happen in this last generation.” No….We are not in the last days. People have been claiming the last days since Acts 2:42. The Biblical fact (Jesus Words) is that no one knows….Not even you. In closing, be happy that you are saved by Grace. Avoid claims that you believe enhance your own position among men in His Church. He will not care...and will find humor in your claim because you are still His. It reminds me of those who babble and claim it is the Gift of Tongues. There claim is made by way of peer pressure only. But beware that you are not put to death for leading others astray. Really! God Bless….Jensen, in search of a true Prophet of God. |
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76 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32249 | ||
Dear prophet ezra brown...You may already know that you have not answered my sincere question or, possibly, I was not clear which would be a shortcoming of mine. Let me say this since I know you are new to the Forum: Here, on the Forum, Christians must support their contentions with Scriptural proof or no one will take them seriously, no matter how seriously they take themselves. This is a place of HONEST debate and discussion where, when challenged, the Christian MUST provide the Scriptural support for a claim, OR state that it is opinion only with NO SCRIPTURAL PROOF. Which shall it be with you? We so look forward to your future participation. So...will you join or fight? Believe me when I say that much more is to be learned by joining.Please provide the basis for your statement ......“BUT THE BIBLE SAYS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE SHALL A WORD BE CONFIRMED." ....Or restate the statement to conform with Scripture. Either is welcome...really! The closest I have come is in Corinthians and has NOTHING to do with “prophetic confirmation” but order in the Church. To wit: 1CO 14:29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31 For you can all prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged. 32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the control of prophets. 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. The verses in Mark have NOTHING AT ALL to do with Prophets as you must know. Please do not let us think that you are blowing smoke. Prophets (true and false) know better. Do you not know that to claim a thing Biblical when it is not is missing the mark for a Christian? Impressing each other is not part of the Great Commission. Do you believe the following Scriptural warning applies only to the Book of Revelation? Some do, and some say it applies to the entire Bible. I’m not sure. Are you? REV 22:18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. God Bless….Jensen |
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77 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32187 | ||
Dear prophet ezra brown.... Praise God for your Gift. Please tell us if you can what you see. I observe Acts 17:11 "Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." So please tell me where the Scripture is that talks about the Prophets and which you quoted . I am having a hard time finding it. You Wrote…. "BUT THE BIBLE SAYS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF TWO OR THREE SHALL A WORD BE CONFIRMED." Is that OT or New? Please help. God Bless....Jensen |
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78 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32184 | ||
Dear Eprophet....Welcome to the Forum :-) .... You Wrote...."Just compare the prophecy you hear with the one and only truth, The Bible."...and you wrote... "Prophets are still out there." It will be nice to have your input on the issues facing Christians today. One of those issues concerns the very existence of modern day prophets. I confess I am recently dedicated to the Lord and have little experience outside my own local non-denominational church were there are Christians who practice several of the Spiritual Gifts as listed in the New Testament letter to Corinth. I recall about twenty and one is the Gift of Prophecy. My question is not concerning the reality of the Gift but with its’ range: How many Prophets are there and how does the Christian know the true from the false. Rev 20:10 "And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever." ..is a prophecy I believe. It is in His Word. It occurred to me that the one way to tell who is genuine is the fact of a self-described prophets’ accuracy. Can a prophet be wrong? I mean no question dead wrong, and still call themselves a prophet of God? I come to this Forum to learn about Him and His Church so please forgive me if my questions are unclear. You said to compare the prophecy with the truth of the Bible. But I can recount a number of prophets from the Bible who did not line up with the Scripture in existence at the time of their prophecies. In other words they themselves were the only source for the prophecy...the first of its kind without foundation in their own current Scripture. "Jonah obeyed the word of the LORD and went to Nineveh. Now Nineveh was a very important city...a visit required three days. 4 On the first day, Jonah started into the city. He proclaimed: "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overturned." 5 The Ninevites believed God. They declared a fast, and all of them, from the greatest to the least, put on sackcloth." Jonah 3:3-5 Where in Scripture would this prophecy be based. The Ninevites believed God by what standard? Do we hold the prophets of today to a different, higher standard than the Ninevites held Jonah? Jonah was a reluctant prophet of God. I have only come across Christians(3) who are only too eager to be known as a prophet. “Hi. I’m Parker. A Prophet of God.” Tell me, since you also call yourself a prophet (EProphet): Have you ever been wrong? Or are your prognostications so far in the future that this generation will never know the truth of the future events you proclaim. The Bible, as you know, has both. What about you? And are you a member of a church that has many prophets, percentage wise, as some churches are 95 percent blessed with the Gift of Tongues? Are they also accurate? Generally? And if so then please point me to the entrance, where may I also find such a church? I am very interested in this topic and would much appreciate your time and effort. Finally, I know I have asked a lot of questions, pick any two or so :-) God Bless....Jensen |
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79 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | Jensen | 32139 | ||
Dear Curt...Cheers indeed :-).....My unasked for two cents......Genesis is also a "when" story. The Bible is full of "when" stories that support extra-biblical accounts of history. If the Creation account is not a "when" story then.....off we go to rewrite history. Washington may have been a "who" that is important, but the "when" still explains much about American history. The "when" of Creation explains much about human history in the same way. Do not fall for the evolution theory, which is what you must do if you reject the "when" account of human origins. Think about it :-) God Bless....Jensen |
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80 | Are Modern Prophets Always Accurate ? | Job | Jensen | 32138 | ||
Dear prophet ezra brown....Thank you for your quick reply. I, and a number of other Christians on the Forum look forward to your input on biblical questions. I have a question about being "A PROPHET OF THE MOST HIGH OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS THE CHRIST". Have you ever been wrong on a prophecy? I know that some churches recognize "prophets" eventhough they have been wrong in their predictions. I also know from my studies that the Biblical Prophets were never wrong. Are todays prophets held to a different standard of accuracy? God Bless....Jensen |
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