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4941 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100607 | ||
George Believe me it is not discouragement you sense but frustration. Chrsitians keep reading the bible but doing what they justify. Their idea is sharing the gospel is telling someone they need to go to chruch. there idea of a good sermon is one that entertained not changed their lives. Their idea of doing something for Christ is dropping a few buck in the offering plate. Sharing the gospel is giving yourself to others, living a life holy and pure before the world, and sharing Christ's love with those around you. EdB |
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4942 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100608 | ||
George The discipline known as Christian apologist is a defender of the Word. Ravi Zacharias is probably the most skilled at combating human logic and humanist philosophy to show the Bible is truely the word of God. My answer was to a person that used common arguments that have been shot down many times in many ways by non believers and I suggestted he listen to Ravi to get an idea of what one can really be up against when trying to present the gospel. Many people have to have their logic defeated before they will stop being so self absorbed to listen to the truth. I was offering that advice. I'm not down playing the power of the Holy Spirit or the Word of God. God can and does accomplish what he desires. However He often uses us to do it and has given us the intellect to use to accomplish His desire. EdB |
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4943 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100612 | ||
Jehonadab Again I submit it is near impossible to prove the Bible is truth by using the Bible if they don't believe the Bibles carries some degree of credibility to begin with. If you can then I will stand back and watch and praise God. However if your just going to cop out and say it is no use they have closed ears and didn’t want to hear any way then stand back and let me take a shot. If you want to learn something then tune in Sunday afternoon to Ravi and learn. EdB |
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4944 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100615 | ||
Jehonadab "However, some informed scholars prefer to use the secular designations "B.C.E." (before our Common Era) and "C.E." (of our Common Era.)" Yes they do to their shame! This is another way of sanitizing our society removing all reference to Jesus out of it. First it was BC and AD now it is "One Nation Under GOD". I think it stinks and I would never use BCE or CE particularly on a Christian forum. EdB |
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4945 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100692 | ||
George I agree with everything you said but I willl say in many cases we are spiritually fat. Unfortunately like a basket of apples if they never get used start to rot. In many cases we have people that can quote from one end of the Bible to the other and yet never do one thing Jesus commanded us to. Then there are some that never read the Bible depending on their Pastor or TV preacher to do that for them. But again they rarely use the knowledge. Yes Jesus did say such would be the state of things. Be blessed and Be a blessing EdB |
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4946 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100737 | ||
DAIRYLEADER5 For the most part I agree, however how many sinners do you get to preach too each Sunday. I'll guess your people meet far more each day at their jobs, schools, places of business, activities, and etc. If pastors would do what the Bible has charged them with, equipping the saints to do the work of the Lord, there would be a lot more workers in the fields. Look what brings most people into a church. Relationship and who better than the people they are in relationship with to tell them about Jesus. However the idea has been fostered that to get people saved they must be in church, under the preaching of a man calling them to salvation and to walk the aisle. I think some believe you can't really be saved unless the choir is softly singing "Just as you are", in the background. Therefore most lay people figure there is no way they can do that and be effective so they don't try. Oh their praying for their brother or sister, aunt or uncle but they are praying Lord sent someone to lead my " " to the Lord. Instead of saying Lord send me. EdB |
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4947 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100834 | ||
DAIRYLEADER5 I agree it is the word of God and Holy Spirit that leads people to Christ, but can't friends and relatives share the word? People do not have to come to church to be saved, in fact in Acts it appears they had to be saved before they came to church. Pastors need to equip their people to be able to share Jesus. I agree if people come to church because of big screen TV's and events they are probably carnal Christians looking for their church fix. They aren't going to get saved because they think they already are. Our churches are filled with them, men and women and children that have it in their minds if they attend church and believe in God they are saved. James 2:19. They live like the world 167 hours of the week and act like saints that one remaining hour in church. If the people of the church are not sharing the gospel and leading people to the Lord the church is dead! It might be 10,000 in size but it is filled with 10,000 dead people. A living church has people excited for Jesus and sharing the word with those they meet. It is the Pastor's responsibility to instill this in his people, and to teach them how to do it in a real and personal way! That is where the failure is! Many times it is easier to say, "bring them to me and I'll tell them about Jesus." That way you don’t offend anyone like you might when you say, "get off the pew and go tell the world about Jesus.” Then all the defenses come up in the people, “I can’t do that I haven’t be called to be an evangelist.” “My gift is helps.” "I tithe what more do you want?" “I teach so I’m doing my part.” “That’s what we pay the pastor for.” And etc. What it really means is their relationship with Jesus isn’t real enough that they can verbalize and share it with others. And that, my friend, is the shame of the church today! Think of anyone that likes football and imagine they got to spend the day with their football hero. They met him in morning had breakfast together then went to practice with him, they ate lunch together with the team, spent the afternoon just hanging with the rest of the team and their hero, then went to supper and afterwards played a little pitch and catch. Would they have something to say? You would probably have to shoot them to shut them up. Everyone they met, they would want to tell them about their friend and how they spent the day with Him. Yet they can’t share Jesus. This is the problem people are not encouraged, not discipled, not told that they need to have a relationship with Jesus nor are they taught how to develop that relationship. In fact I believe many pastors don’t have that kind of relationship with Jesus. And in there lies a big part of the problem. You can't share something you know nothing about. EdB |
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4948 | Jehonadab, Why C.E. and B.C.E.? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 100849 | ||
Jehonadab Thank you for the wonderful explanation of how we date time. However since AD and CE refer to the same time period there is no difference, only one refers to God and the other not. Using CE is just another way to remove any reference of deity from our society. I think it stinks. EdB |
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4949 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101040 | ||
Jehonadab You asked? If someone does not accept the Bible as God's word, then tell how you would convince them there is a Creator? This dilemma is covered in Josh Macdowells books, Evidence that demands a verdict Vol 1 and 2. Basically you point to the order found in creation and through logic show this order could not just happen. I over simplify and in doing so do an injustice to Josh’s two books. This order is the stumbling block of most Evolutionary scientist and has caused most to conclude evolution can not have created creation. However the refuse to publicly state this, for as soon as they do they lose their funding and their job. It is hard to be a evolutionary scientist if you prove evolution can work. If your really interested the I suggest you read the books, also once again Ravi Zacharias has done extensive work in answering these questions and written a book on the subject. EdB |
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4950 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101127 | ||
John Okay, I probably should have stayed out of this since there so many experts. Interesting. EdB |
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4951 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101147 | ||
John No offense was taken as such. The question was asked, "If someone does not accept the Bible as God's word, then tell how you would convince them there is a Creator?" I gave a reference to a great source of information written by a man, God has given a brilliance for revealing His truth. A man whose writings have probably lead more people to the Lord the everyone combined on this forum has. I saw that reference summarily dismissed as something a “real” evangelist wouldn’t need, even though I have heard Billy Graham reference items from the book more than a few times. So I figured with so many people on the forum with such expertise on the subject of sharing the Gospel and Jesus with others, that my humble opinions weren’t needed. I would stand back and watch. EdB |
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4952 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101148 | ||
John By the way nature reveals God to thinking inquiring individuals. But our society is often contains self absorbed and self centered people who have been trained to think in relative truths rather than absolute truths. They also have been trained in humanistic logic that eventually reasons away anything that doesn't fit in their self centered world. So while you might say Paul demolishes true atheistism, I have run into enough people that I’m convinced Satan and his lies are alive and well on planet earth. EdB |
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4953 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101150 | ||
John On these points you absolutely correct. EdB |
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4954 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101155 | ||
John You said and I quote, "I think that science, logic and philosophy are good tools for the apologist, but not the evangelist. His tool is the Gospel." I think that says what I understood it to say. John God gave us a brain and reasoning, we should use these along with faith and trust. John I understand your approach to salvation and I even mentioned I found it interesting, if I believed as you do I would be saying what your saying also. However let facts speak, great evangelist do use science, logic, reasoning, alone with the gospel to share Jesus to the world. Paul himself did in Athens, he viewed all their statues to all their gods and realized he was fighting an uphill battle. Then he saw the statue to the unknown god and the Holy Spirit quickened him and said there is you entrance. He approached the people on something they undeerstood and knew. Their unknown God then he said I know Him let me tell you about him. Remember that didn't exist in scripture until he did it. If we trust in the Holy Spirit to lead us He will reveal the entrance into people for us. It may be nature, it may be history, it may be science, it may be logic what ever it is, it gives us the entrance to share the Gospel. I have never claimed anything as a substitute to scripture, I have merely said in the "real" world you may have to get the people to listen to you with something else before you use scripture. EdB |
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4955 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101157 | ||
John Yes and so shut the door its us four and no more. I never said anything was a match for scripture. I said if you want people to hear you sometimes you need to get their attention with something they believe, are interested in, speculate about, think about, wonder about, etc. EdB |
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4956 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101170 | ||
John John you have as much as have said this many times. You have successfully blown all preconceived notions about Calvinist I ever had out the door, and replaced them with a bitter memories. And if you don't fit the definition of a Hyper Calvinist then I can't within my wildest imagination dire picture they must paint. EdB |
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4957 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101172 | ||
John Your statement,"The question I was answering was "If someone does not accept the Bible as God's word, then tell how you would convince them there is a Creator?" My response was "I don't believe that anyone (without certain exceptions; Infants, severely hanicapped etc.) does not truly believe in a Creator. If they really did'nt believe they would have an excuse before God." I take it, we agree up to this point. Right?" No here we don't agree, I have met many that are true atheist, while I might think them educated idiots. I assure you they weren't infants or handicapped. Unless your claiming their handicap is what made them idiots in my sight. Yes your remark was too sweeping and from that point on we once again agree. :-) EdB |
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4958 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101173 | ||
Hank Good catch! EdB |
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4959 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101230 | ||
Hank I suspect your right on that! :-) EdB |
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4960 | How do we preach the Gospel? | 1 John 2:2 | EdB | 101231 | ||
John I don't know why either. "Let the blind lead the blind." And I love you. EdB |
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