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41 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | jg8ball | 81037 | ||
Thanks for your kind words and prayers. I'm glad there are actually some "sane" people on this forum. As far as my dad goes, I have put it into God's hands and really don't let it get too me (much). I know that God's in control and no matter what we do, think, act, say, etc.. God's Will will triumph. - John Green |
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42 | Predetermined or Free Will | Luke 8:13 | jg8ball | 81045 | ||
I guess this is something they felt that Jesus would not discuss. sadfully yours, John P.S. my father's name is also John. - Thanks. |
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43 | Not my will, but Yours be done... | Luke 22:42 | jg8ball | 70746 | ||
I completely agree with you here. I believe Jesus, during His time on earth, was more human than God. He had to become human to become the perfect sacrifice for us. | ||||||
44 | Do you believe once save, always saved. | Luke 23:43 | jg8ball | 353 | ||
I'm not saying that everytime you sin you are no longer saved. What I said is that if a person decided to totally give up believing in God and renounce their belief in Jesus and go out and do horrible and unmentionable things with no feelings of remorse then I believe that person would no longer be welcome in the Kingdom of Heaven (unless later they again truely repent). I'm not saying that this would be a common thing for a believer to do just that it could happen. | ||||||
45 | That's an interesting belief. | Luke 23:43 | jg8ball | 450 | ||
I'm sorry but I don't see how these verses support your belief. | ||||||
46 | That's an interesting belief. | Luke 23:43 | jg8ball | 453 | ||
I completely and totaly agree that we are saved by Grace alone and not by works. What I don't agree with though is once saved always saved. 2 John 1: 8-9 Watch out that you do not lose what you have worked for, but that you may be rewarded fully. Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. |
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47 | That's an interesting belief. | Luke 23:43 | jg8ball | 597 | ||
Thanks. You and June bring up good points. I've always been about 60 to 40 in favor of the possiblity of renouncing one's salvation (although I admit I have no idea why one would) but now I think I'm starting to lean the other way. I'll do some more reading into what you wrote and talking with others and maybe I'll swing even farther to the once saved always saved. On the otherhand though, I do believe that we have the choice whether or not to accept Gods gift of salvation. Not because of any pridefull thing or power trip, but because I believe that God would rather have us make the decision to worship Him rather than force us to. Consider for example if you had the power to make someone love you. Would you use it or would you rather have them choose to love you? |
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48 | Is Jesus God? | John 1:1 | jg8ball | 1316 | ||
Thanks for the info. I'll let you know if it helps. I have been working with him for the last several months and he is extremely open (for a JW) but can't make that final step be he is able to admit of several flaws in the JW teaching. I just bought him a parallel bible with KJV, NASB, NIV, and NLT in hopes that he will read it for himself and see how the NWT clouds the meanings. |
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49 | "even" is confusing. | John 1:12 | jg8ball | 2825 | ||
I agree with you. When I see the phrase "believe in his name", I (mistakenly?) interpret that as accepting Jesus as your Savior. As far as I know, most people believe Jesus lived 2000 years ago and did many wonderful things. But when you believe IN Jesus, that's something completely different. Sorry for the confusion. | ||||||
50 | reincarnation in the bible? | John 9:3 | jg8ball | 912 | ||
AMEN! | ||||||
51 | Stay marriaed at all costs? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39021 | ||
Well Said!!! | ||||||
52 | Do YOU belive in the Bible? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39069 | ||
I have to disagree with you when you say that the Bible can only be intepreted one way. What about all the different denominations, or Calvinism vs Armeniumism, or Catholic vs Protestant? Aren't these all based on different interpretations of the Bible. Or are you saying that your way is the only true interpretation of the Bible and everyone else is wrong? Everything you write in this forum, unless you are quoting someone or somthing else, is your opinion. Just because you cite a verse, your interpretation is your opinion and may or may not be in agreement with everyone. When you tell me to keep my feelings to a minimum, I "feel" you are missing the whole point of what Jesus told us. Everything He did was for His love of God and His love for us. His feelings. Everything He said was His opinion of how to best interpret God's will based on those feelings. I do not know about you, but my "feelings" are based on what I have learned (to date) from the Holy Spirit, studying the word of God, and my experiences in interacting with others. Our feelings are very important when trying to help others and making decisions in your life. I believe the Holy Spirit, if allowed, uses our feelings to know the will of God. In some cases I agree that citing scripture verses should be used (such as showing that Jesus died for ALL people and not SOME people) but I did not feel it was necessary at that point in the exchange about her abusive husband. If she would have asked for biblical references, I would have given them. Matthew 22:36-40 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." Isn't LOVE a feeling? It's through my Love for God and those in need that I attempt to offer my "opinions" or "feelings" (or interpretation of the Bible) not based on a whim, but on my continuing walk with Jesus. Am I wrong in my thinking? |
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53 | Do YOU belive in the Bible? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39085 | ||
I don't disagree with you about Love other than that I think Love is a feeling, emotion, attitude, a way of life. I also wouldn't call it merely and emotion for Love is the most important feeling one could have. Just as Hatred is the worst. I also agree that we can't make the Bible mean what we want it to. Becuase there are areas that can legitimitely be interepreted more than one way, even though we humans may like to argue back and forth about what is right, they do not necessarily play a role in the grand scheme of what the Bible says. The important things in the bible are very clear. IE: Believe in Jesus Christ and repent your sins. Love God and Neighboor. Forgive your brother. So how did this whole thing get started anyways? Oh well, have a good day. |
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54 | Do YOU belive in the Bible? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39086 | ||
I agree. Is Faith Love? |
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55 | Do YOU belive in the Bible? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39096 | ||
Sorry, you are correct. Hatred of that which is against God is ok. (although we are still told to love our enemies - Hate the sin but love the sinner) I was refering to hatred in an evil sense. |
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56 | Do YOU belive in the Bible? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39106 | ||
I don't understand your question then. Did I imply that Faith had something to do with feelings? | ||||||
57 | Can a divorced person remarry? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39108 | ||
AMEN! | ||||||
58 | Do YOU belive in the Bible? | 1 Cor 7:15 | jg8ball | 39232 | ||
Yes, Love is a feeling. What does that have to do with faith? Are you trying not to make sense or do you find pleasure in tormenting others for no good reason? | ||||||
59 | COULD A BELIEVER LOSE THEIR SALVATION? | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1128 | ||
Sorry JVH0212, but I can't seem to leave you alone. Please don't put ideas into passages. Read them for what they are. Following are the verses you quoted with my interpretations: John 5:24 is simply saying that those that are saved have everlasting life. It does not say anything about not being able to lose that salvation. Romans 8:28-39 is talking about external things will not be able to separate us from God. Jude 24 - Yes, God is able to keep us from stumbling but if we refuse the help then it's our problem. 1 John 2:19 - is talking about how we will know it is the last hour (v 18). I believe it's kind of saying that we will be suprised when we see friends and family turn away from God because they were not saved because if they were saved then they would not have turned their backs on Jesus. Note that verse 24 says "See that what you have heard from the beginning remains in you. If it does, you also will remain in the Son and in the Father." Note the "If it does". This implies that it is possible that to turn your back on what you once knew. And if we do keep what we heard in us, what will happen? Verse 25 - "And this is what he promised us -- even eternal life." You are again putting ideas in Phil 1:6 that are not there. Read it again. It is saying that God will not bail out on us and will keep his offer of salvation until the end. Did you even read John 8:31? Jesus is telling the Jews that believed in him (therefore saved) that If they hold to His teaching, they are really his disciples. In otherwords, Jesus is telling this group of saved people that if they continue belive they will be saved which implies that if they stop believing, then they will not be saved. Hebrews 3:14 "We have come to share in Christ IF we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first." Notice the "IF" If I didn't know better I'd think you were trying to prove that it's possible for a person to renounce their own salvation. Psalm 51:11-12 "Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me. Restore to me the joy of your salvation and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me." The author of this psalm obviously thought he could lose God. 2 Peter 5-10 is telling us to make every effort to make sure we keep the "good qualities" and that IF we do these things we will not fall. Eph 1:14 - Yes, the Holy Spirit is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance. Jesus died for our sins. Our salvation is guaranteed (as long as we do not renounce that salvation). In otherwords, if you take a pop (or soda) bottle to the store they will give you the deposit - it's guranteed unless of course you decide to throw that bottle out the window on the way. When you get to the store, you'll have nothing. And one more verse I'll add: 2 Peter 2:20 "If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning." It doesn't matter who the "they" are (in this case he's talking about false teachers) it's more important to notice that the "they" were saved becase they escaped the corruption of the world thru Jesus and then lost that salvation (entangled and overcome in the ways of the world) and will pay dearly for this. |
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60 | I agree with you 100 percent. But... | Hebrews | jg8ball | 1163 | ||
To answer why a person would renounce there salvation, I guess I'd have to say because we are forgetfull people when it comes to all the great things God has done for us. It could be really easy for a saved person to forget the love of God and be drawn back to the temptations of the world. To give an Old Testament example, look at the exodus from Egypt. Look at all God did for the Hebrews and look at how many times they still complained and wanted to turn back. I believe many would have turned back if it were not for Moses and Aaron consistantly reminding them of God's promise and Love. The same is true today. We need to encourage one another and remind each other daily of God's love so that no one has the opportunity to turn back to the world. | ||||||
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