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241 | Is this the 'Complete Christian'? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24332 | ||
5. He descended into hell. Did this ever get resolved, did He or didn't He? I remember Copeland taught yes and wasn't this one of his false teaching? Brain, I believe all that except for the question on #5. The thing is, if Cath stuck to that, it would be OK but it's all the branching out that gets them into trouble. :) I believe a Cath can still be a Christian, but question why would a Cath who is a Christian would want to stay there? If you were a Mormon and became a true follower of Jesus, you'd have to get out, same w/Islam, Hindu, etc. Of course there are other Chriistian denom that are questionable today too, they started out right but have fallen intro apostacy. Any church, whether it's a whole demon. or just a rouge church that teaches apostasy-get out!!! |
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242 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24370 | ||
Lisa, if this was taken out of a RCC catachism, they aren't gonna say RCC every time, they are referred to as church. Mama has the latest RCC catachism. She says that what it says. I come from a Cath background, I'm thru being duped by them. | ||||||
243 | Is this the 'Complete Christian'? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24374 | ||
Even the devil knows all that is true and believes it, he just doesn't want to accept it. :) | ||||||
244 | Is this the 'Complete Christian'? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24520 | ||
I would think she would have known because it was predicted in the scriptures, after all, she knew who she was having. | ||||||
245 | Is this the 'Complete Christian'? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24523 | ||
I didn't read your post till after I posted other. I didn't realize they didn't know He would die beforehand, guess I was wrong. :) | ||||||
246 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24577 | ||
Joe, you might as well give up, it is very hard for a Cath to admit the word "I was wrong!" I would think that if a Cath has saving faith in Jesus, they would recognize the apostasy of the RCC and get out as fast as they could and take as many with them as they could, but they linger on regardless, it's just so hard to leave. I hated it, I recognized they lied to me and had no trouble leaving, there was no way I could get rest of family elders to leave, they all died in her except for my mother wgo finally left but after she has been put down, lied to, practically spit upon but she still stayed. She finally left when I started going to this Bapt church I go to now, she'd go to mass, then go w/me to my church. It was then she saw the differences. We actually preach from the Bible, they just run their mouth. She said the final straw was when she was griping to preist about how all the seniors want to do for their field trips was so to FL to buy lottery tickets or go to Biloxi for casinos. The priest told her that life is a gamble, we gamble on whether we're getting to heaven or not. She said that's when it truly struck her, if they don't know where they're going, why is she staying here??? She left and now is a baptized born again Christian going to a Baptist church! There are many born again Christians in our church that used to be Cath, one just died recently and our Bible teacher was telling her testimony and is comparing what Cath believe, we are studying justification now. Here's a quick few about what Cath believe about justification: Justification is God's act of making man righteous by good works and obedience (we say faith). Justification is achieved bu faith and good works (we say faith alone). Justification can be increased by receiving more sacraments (we say perfect righteousness of Christ). Final justification is not determined until death (we say faith in Jesus). Emphasis on sacraments (we say Christ's verdict). |
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247 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24642 | ||
Brain, what you don't seem to grasp is that I was born and raised Cath, I come from a family w/priests and archbishops, there was hardly a time the doors opened that we weren't there. I made As in religion classes at Cath school. I've been there, done that. I disagree totally with the RCC. After I figured out they were lying to me, I rebelled and became a total heathen for about a decade, even during Satanic worship phase, we were going to break into my cath church because everything you needed for Black Mass was there-what does that tell you? Later on when I was being witnessed to by Christians and shown literature defaming occult and Cath church, wonder why I immediately tied the two together? Been there, done that! After I accepted Jesus I tried my best to convince my Cath family to leave the RCC, that it was demonic and preached apostasy-get out!!! But they were entrenched, just like you are, wouldn't open their eyes to see the lies and deceit. They used that but we love Jesus line as they prayed to Mary and different saints. Well, duh, if you really loved Jesus, you would do what He says, not what He says not to do!!! By their fruits you shall know them. Have you considered God maybe led you here to hear the Truth and get you out of there? When you compare their teaching to the Bible, they are wrong!!! I'm not saying they are only ones wrong either, like that Bible teacher said today, there is a Pres. church that he went to that teaches salvation thru Baptism, he's a Gideon and was there to do a funeral, he was allowed 5 min to speak, he said preacher mentioned 5 times about salvation thru baptism. But he said there another Pres. church that doesn't believe that way so you can't say all do. Then there was a 34 yr old Meth woman who was drunk and got killed by ramming headon into another car in opposite lane, at her funeral the preacher was saying there is still hope for her because she was baptized. There are other Meth churches that doesn't teach that too. Baptism doesn't equal salvation. It is what you do as a sign to show that you are a follower of Jesus, it does not save you, it is symbolic. That is why a baby can't be baptized, you have to be old enough to know what you're doing by accepting Jesus as your Savior. Another woman was saying some lady paid her 19 yr old 100 dollars to get baptized because she was living w/some guy, done had an abortion, and she was worried her daughter would go to hell w/o baptism. I'm sure that really took-not! But, see, I wasn't raised Meth or Pres, I was raised Cath so I know what I was taught, I can only speculate of these other denom but I know Cath and I know they are wrong. There are many good people in the Cath church who are just deceived by the heirachy, they sincerely believe what they are taught and they are taught wrong!!! That is how Satan drags millions of good people to hell, just feeds them a tad of truth in w/apostasy so they never accept Jesus as they should because they just don't know any better. I heard last year between 12/12-1/3 the pope was selling indulgences, that was supposed to have been done away with by Vat II but it wasn't, it's just a cover up, duping all those millions of Cath. I saw pics of pope leading procession around w/Mary on a litter, proclaiming Mary. It's same old same old. And you're gonna stay there and defend it? Open your eyes!!! If you really love Jesus and accepted Him as Savior, obey His Words and get out of there and take as many with you as you can when you leave! Think, Brian, they even changed the commandments so they can worship their graven images. I still can't get the numbers of the commandments right because I've been taught the Cath way! What does that tell you right there? #4 is not Honor your father and mother, that is really #5-look it up!!! Please, Brian, think about it, let Holy Spirit convict you and get out!!! They are leading their people straight to hell! |
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248 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24653 | ||
No, Brian, I'm talking about a priest standing before us in religion class in HS saying the Bible was written to counteract mythology type stuff. You wrote like I never grew up, just remained a child understanding on childish levels, let me assure you, that is not so! I brought some noncath friends to an Easter svc one time and they did actually change the Easter story and believe me, I knew my gospels, then then had this faggy guy I knew from drama club reading that section, that was the final straw then. I was around thru Vat II, I liked the Latin mass, I sang in the choir, it lost something to me changing it to English, sure couldn't sing the responses right either. Then how about that rollcall of saints they called out during that one svc durting that time, saints you never even heard of and we're singing for them to pray for us. I've been to numerous crowning of Mary svcs, novenas, etc. I've said the rosary more times than I could count, kneeling as a family in front of our own little idol. No thanks, you can stay there if you want but you're wasting your breath if you think you can convince me about how right the RCC is, I know. Explain to me how the Pope when speaking from the Chair of Peter is infallible, he may have been thinking one thing, but when he speaks from Chair, he speaks the truth. When people are cannonized, the pope is speaking from chair. Then all of a sudden, they decided St. Christopher didn't exist. So, was the pope that declared him a saint infallible or was the one who said it was a myth infallible? They both can't be right. Besides, Jesus isn't a baby anymore so St. C couldn't have carried him on his shoulders anyway-more lies! Then how many Mary's they gonna have? They got Mary's in every color, sometimes several of each, I guess each nationality has to have their own. Brain, can't you see you're being duped? You sound like a Jesuit-are you? Then I did read the Chick stuff and unfortunately, he was dead on. He even had a tract about Cath that he said they were trying to remove and sure enough I went to buy more and they were removed, I asked about them and they had a few under the counter, it happened just like he said. Seems to me a real Christian would be defending the Bible before any denomination. The Word is what Jesus says, not what any particular denom says and when you're denom is the end all, maybe you made that denom into an idol in itself? Isn't that what JWs do? Islam? Think about it. I wouldn't die defending the Baptists but I would die defending Jesus, isn't that the way it should be? |
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249 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24671 | ||
Brian, how can you read Martha's story and come up w/your conclusion? I say thank God for that old man who spoke the Truth to her! Better for her to have been floundering around trying to find the Truth than being indoctrinated into wrong teaching that will send you to hell! At least now she knows the Truth and doesn't have to purge years of brainwashing from her mind. My obvious conclusion also was that she did not go to Cath school, otherwise, she would not have went to SS and she would have made her first communion in 2nd grade. I think this was God guiding her life to keep her away from the wrong teachings. Seems we come up w/two different conclusions about her story. :) |
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250 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 24846 | ||
The testimony about your wife is how all Cath feel once they break away and learn the real Truth. It's amazing to me how hard it is for them to break. Talking to them is like talking to a wall, you just can't get thru! The Church is more important than Jesus, so are Mary, saints and pope too. Even when you leave, they beg you to come back, do everything they can to convince you, been there, had that happen. I have to give it to Cath in one way tho, at least they're loyal, may be misplaced loyalty but it's hard to change them. I had a BIL that was kicked out of church, him and my sister eloped so their marriage or children weren't recognized, they never had anything to do w/Church, drank and smoked heavily. Later when I'd be telling them about Jesus, he'd say we're Cath. Then I was witnessing to him heavy before he died, so were the Cath-guess which one he chose. :( I have a crackhead brother who refuses to go to church w/us but goes to Cath church occas, I think just to make Mama mad, he sponges off of her. We know only Jesus can change him but he refuses to listen, still clings to salvation thru Church instead of Jesus-what can you do except pray for him. |
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251 | Renewal AGAIN to repentance? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25021 | ||
I heard a sermon preached one time about David. Maybe someone else can elaborate, but it was that after David's little excursion w/Bathsheba, when Nathan the prophet came to call David to repentance, that if David didn't repent, that God was going to have him removed. He would have still been saved, but taken out to prevent further straying or causing other to. | ||||||
252 | Renewal AGAIN to repentance? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25062 | ||
"where do you consider to be the line between sinful acts as a believer in Christ and being apostate from the faith?" I've wondered that myself. I met somebody on another forum before who claims to have BEEN a Christian, baptized in Holy Spirit, etc, even played backup for different Christian groups but is now a bisexual pagan priest. That would definately be apostate from the faith there if he wasn't not really saved. What about a preacher who was maybe a renowned preacher who decides to live like the world, enter into sin? Is he rejecting Jesus or just being a weak person? Did you read my post about David? Any comments? |
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253 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25374 | ||
If you die w/mortal sin on your soul, you go to hell. If you die w/veniel sin, you go to purgatory. Then you can say indulgences which goes towards time off on sentence in purgatory too. Of course I heard at one time you could even pay someone's way out of purgatory, I guess money can buy anything. :) Most Cath in US are RCC, usually the others are in other parts of world but I guess they can immigrate too. |
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254 | Is this the 'Complete Christian'? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25490 | ||
I think I didn't read Debbie's response before I answered Lisa. :) She said it was hidden and that nobody quite understood it so I guess you are all right there. But it still seems Mary would have figured something was going to happen just from the miraculous circumstances of His birth tho, who knows. Guess we'll have to ask her when we get there. :) | ||||||
255 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25525 | ||
Obviously they weren't Catholic. :) Why Mary and thr saints will do nicely, thank you very much... | ||||||
256 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25553 | ||
No, Dear, this is what I was taught in religion class-fact! Our priest also usually made us say 3 Hail Marys for pentence after confession too. I was called a liar before for saying that too because this other person's priest did Our Fathers. I'm stating facts that I grew up with, if you don't like it, I'd tell you go talk to the priests and nuns who taught me but even if you could find them, they're prob all dead anyway. So, don't call me a liar, I'm just parroting them, call them a liar if you want to call anyone one, OK. | ||||||
257 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25744 | ||
We were discussing first century church today in Bible study. Their main focus was on worship and decipleship. Nonbelievers didn't go there, they'd get them saved in marketplaces, then they could come. They usually preformed the Lord's Supper in remembrance of him too. There were only 2 things Jesus taught us to do, pray and how to do Lord's Supper. There are only 2 ordinances he has us do too, Baptism and Lord's Supper. I heard it mentioned today that baptism is the new covenant equivilant of circumcision in the old covenant, it's our sign. The Lord's Supper is done in remembrance of Jesus' death. There was an Xcath lady who asked if there were any rules considering Lord's Supper about fasting, Cath have to fast first. I think they dropped the time limit to a few hours but still there was a fast involved. He explained there are no rules set forth in Bible. Anyway, since Lisa accussed me of making up the junk about if you die w/mortal sin you go to hell and veniel sin gets you purgatory, I asked if that was what the Cath taught and there were many Xcath there who said yes it was what they taught so... |
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258 | "Once Saved Always Saved" | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 25751 | ||
Hi There, Daddy's first cousin is a priest, he was in same city, was over for all major holidays plus inbetween too. Then our church has 2 regular priests plus Springhill College is in town so some of their Jesuits would come there too. Then there were bunches of nuns, they were the main religion teachers. Then in high school there were nuns and priests. It was the priest teaching religion that said bible was just stories to combat mythology. By this time our church happened to have this priest's brother there too. So I'd say I had more than 1 priest's influence. :) I did ask a bunch of Xcath today at Bible study if the Cath did teach the mortal sin/hell and veniel sin/purgatory and they all said yes, that's what they were taught too so... |
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259 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 27935 | ||
I think there are 2 sons of perdition. :) | ||||||
260 | Judas went to hell? | NT general Archive 1 | Norrie | 28006 | ||
You mean like in GWTW when Scarlett was on a crying jag after Frank got killed and Rhett told her she reminds him of the thief who is not really sorry they stole but is awfully sorry they're going to jail. :) I had a hard time w/repentance too. I grew up Cath and thought it meant be sorry for too but it is much more than that, it's to turn your life around. |
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