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21 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185420 | ||
Hi Hobbs. You have said. "Now, why do I believe that what I have just said is true. Allow me to list just two verses for starts. Rom 3:10 as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; Rom 3:11 THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD;" Hobbs But what about the four words that immediately precede your Scripture quotation, namely Rom 3:10 As it is written: Now I wonder, could it possibly be that Paul might just be referring to existing Scripture of around 1000 years old at the time he wrote Romans?.. What about. Psa 14:1 PSALM 14 To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. THE fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good. Psa 14:2 The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. Psa 14:3 They have all turned aside, They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one. Psa 14:4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge, Who eat up my people as they eat bread, And do not call on the LORD? Psa 14:5 There they are in great fear, For God is with the generation of the righteous. Psa 14:6 You shame the counsel of the poor, But the LORD is his refuge. Psa 14:7 Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion! When the LORD brings back the captivity of His people, Let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad. Psa 53:1 PSALM 53 To the Chief Musician. Set to "Mahalath." A Contemplation* of David. THE fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, and have done abominable iniquity; There is none who does good. Psa 53:2 God looks down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. Psa 53:3 Every one of them has turned aside; They have together become corrupt; There is none who does good, No, not one. Psa 53:4 Have the workers of iniquity no knowledge, Who eat up my people as they eat bread, And do not call upon God? Psa 53:5 There they are in great fear Where no fear was, For God has scattered the bones of him who encamps against you; You have put them to shame, Because God has despised them. Psa 53:6 Oh, that the salvation of Israel would come out of Zion! When God brings back the captivity of His people, Let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad. Pay special attention to verse 4, in each case, and tell me is David referring to the entire human race at all times in history, or just those who were the enemies of Israel at that time? ebrain. |
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22 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185738 | ||
Hi Apollos. Thank you for your post.. What Paul has to say in Romans Chapter 3, has to be considered within the context of what he had already said in Ch 2, an extract from which is given bellow. Rom 2:6 who "will render to each one according to his deeds":* Rom 2:7 eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality; Rom 2:8 but to those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness--indignation and wrath, Rom 2:9 tribulation and anguish, on every soul of man who does evil, of the Jew first and also of the Greek; Rom 2:10 but glory, honor, and peace to everyone who works what is good, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. Rom 2:14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, Rom 2:15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) Please note especially verses 7, and 14-15.. I do not see how it is possible for "eternal life", to be given to anyone described by who Paul at. Rom 3:10 As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one; Rom 3:11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God. He cannot possibly with these last verses be referring to all mankind at all times in history, otherwise he would be contradicting himself. I believe that all Paul is doing here in these two Chapters, is contrasting "Gentile", behavior with, "Jewish" behavior. The Jews who had the Oracles of God should have known better. A possible explanation for Ch 2, could be found at. Act 8:30 So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading the prophet Isaiah, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?" Act 8:31 And he said, "How can I, unless someone guides me?" And he asked Philip to come up and sit with him. Act 10:2 a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, who gave alms generously to the people, and prayed to God always. Act 10:3 About the ninth hour of the day he saw clearly in a vision an angel of God coming in and saying to him, "Cornelius!" Act 10:4 And when he observed him, he was afraid, and said, "What is it, lord?" So he said to him, "Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before God. Act 10:5 "Now send men to Joppa, and send for Simon whose surname is Peter. Please compare the following extracts, and tell me if you think there is a connection? Was Cornelius saved because of Merit? "eternal life to those who by patient continuance in doing good seek for glory, honor, and immortality;" "Your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before God." Every blessing. Edwin. (ebrain) |
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23 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185816 | ||
Hi Mark. What follows might be of some help. as always, I shall value your comments thereon. There are parallels in the Scriptures between how things are done in the physical world, and how things are done in the spiritual world, there is an order and a sequence, A comes before B, and never B before A. All human life starts with conception.. A seed is planted, then some 40 weeks or so later on a child is born.. The child can do nothing in the physical world until after it is born into it. 1Cr 2:14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. The natural man needs to be born into the spiritual world, before he is able to receive the things of the Spirit of God, only then will he be able to benefit from what he reads. How is this done? Well ones ability to participate in the spiritual world takes exactly the same order and sequence, firstly the Lord plants His seed (not the Holy Spirit) into a person, this is sometimes referred to as "Re-generation", ie, the making alive again of the human spirit, the spirit that died in Adam at the fall. The natural man is now able to understand the Word, it now makes sense to him, the period of gestation is not revealed, it might be a long time, or a short time, but re-birth, never, never, proceeds re-generation. Have a look now at. Isa 53:10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand, NKJ. Note especially, "When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days," If I go into my back garden, and plant a seed, I cannot see it as it is bellow the surface, but in due time up comes a small green shoot, and I say "I can see my seed", what I mean of course is I can now see the result of having planted that seed in the first place. When Jesus sees you offering His soul for your sin, He is able to prolong His days, by taking up residence inside you, in the person of His other self, the Holy Spirit. His seed, that is God's Seed remains in you see. 1Jo 3:9 Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God. Every blessing. Edwin. |
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24 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185818 | ||
Hi Apollos. You said. "I would also want to say that if he was seeking God before this (as he clearly was) it could only have been because God had begun to work in his heart to bring him to himself. Without that work of God no one would ever seek for God." Now have a look at. Job 1:8 Then the LORD said to Satan, "Have you considered My servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, one who fears God and shuns evil?" Job 1:9 So Satan answered the LORD and said, "Does Job fear God for nothing? Job 1:10 "Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land Tell me did Job fear God of his own free will, or as Satan said, because of what God had done for Job, when the Lord gave Satan permission to take away the blessing? And what about these verses. Eze 18:32 "For I have no pleasure in the death of one who dies," says the Lord GOD. "Therefore turn and live!" Eze 33:11 "Say to them: 'As I live,' says the Lord GOD, 'I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn, turn from your evil ways! For why should you die, O house of Israel?' Eze 18:21 "But if a wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed, keeps all My statutes, and does what is lawful and right, he shall surely live; he shall not die. Eze 18:22 "None of the transgressions which he has committed shall be remembered against him; because of the righteousness which he has done, he shall live. Eze 18:23 "Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?" says the Lord GOD, "and not that he should turn from his ways and live? Do you mean to tell me that God said the above, knowing full well that it is an imposibility for any man to "turn from his ways and live?" |
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25 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185876 | ||
Hi again Mark. and thank you for your input. You said. "As I use the terms "regeneration" and "re-birth", I am speaking of exactly the same thing by both. It is this deliverance that we speak of when we say "salvation." Salvation is an ongoing process that includes "regeneration", there is an order and sequence of events, for example, you are saved, you are being saved, you will be saved, sanctification is also included, whereas, "conversion", on the other hand, is a once and for all never to be repeated moment it time, You have done what Romans 10:9, tells you to do, You know that you are saved, that all your sins have been forgiven, that you have become a Christian, you now have a new life. Regeneration is what The Lord has done to you in advance, in order that you might be able to understand "Spiritual things", and therefore be able to do what Rom 10:9. tells you to do.. You go on to say. "I'm not certain. I want to be clear in what I believe. You wrote something rather intriguing: "firstly the Lord plants His seed (not the Holy Spirit)". The reason is that the Holy Spirit dose not take up residence within you, until you do what is required at,, Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, You do not receive the Holy Spirit, until you believe, and you cannot believe if God has not first planted His seed in you, therefore the Holy Spirit cannot possibly be the seed, I have already dealt with this problem to some extent when you asked a question about,, Eph 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, and I explained at the time just how it was possible for you to be "in Him". long before you were born. Every blessing brother. Edwin. |
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26 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185879 | ||
When I say that I am not a Calvinist, I mean that although I accept some of what they teach, I do not accept all of what they teach. and that was all that I intended to convey.. What's more, I have no intention of being drawn into any extended debate on the pros, and cons of Calvinism, as I do not believe it would be of any spiritual benefit. ebrain. |
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27 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185880 | ||
Hi Tim. Tell me do you think that "all men", means all without exception, or all without distinction? ebrain. |
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28 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185945 | ||
Hi Hobbs. Please note that the first two words of the passage you are quoting are, "What if".. Paul is not saying that what follows is in fact the case, but rather.. What if it were the case? Yours in His service. ebrain. |
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29 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185985 | ||
Hi Mark. Thank you for your post. In order to answer your question, it is best to go back a few verses in this Chapter to Rom 9:10 And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac Rom 9:11 (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), Rom 9:12 it was said to her, "The older shall serve the younger."* Rom 9:13 As it is written, "Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated."* Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! Why did God love Jacob, and hate Esau? The answer of course is "Divine foreknowledge", The Lord knew full well before these two were born exactly what each one exercising his own free will would do, and because of His foreknowledge, He loves one, and hates the other. He most certainly did not foreordain one to be good, and the other one to be evil. Such a suggestion would be a gross misrepresentation of the Lord our God. I hope this helps. Edwin. |
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30 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 185987 | ||
Hi again Mark. I should have included in my last post that election is according to foreknowledge. Rom 8:29 For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Edwin. |
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31 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 186130 | ||
Hi Mark Paul may not say so, but Peter does 1Pe 1:2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Edwin. |
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32 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 186133 | ||
Hi Mark. You say. "but that God has give disfavor to Esau". Could you explain to me why you think God disfavors Esau? and please don't hide behind, "God is Sovereign, He can do just what He likes, He is answerable to no one." The problem here Mark is that if one maintains that it is impossible for any human to have "Merit", without Divine assistance, then one is in serious danger of miss representing the Lord.. What about those who do not have "Merit",, and end up in Hell, when they could not possibly have "Merit", in any case without His intervention? If on the other hand, not all humans are identical, but some (perhaps one percent, or even less), do have "Merit", then there is no problem. The Lord is not willing that any should perish,,, but broad is the way ect,ect. Shall not the judge of all the earth do right? Edwin. PS. This is not an easy subject, and I am well aware that I might not have used the best words to explain just what my understanding is. |
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33 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 186168 | ||
Hi Mark. You say. "I believe God is fair, and I likewise believe that none have merit. I think God intervenes in each of our lives, and we have a choice to make, whether to accept His intervention, or reject it". If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the "Human Race", is de vided into two groups, those who will accept, and those who won't, if this is the case, please explain. "Rom 3:11 There is none who understands; There is none who seeks after God". And now "Election". 1Th 1:4 knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God. Please explain for me the difference between "election by God", and "predestination by God", or could they both be the same. If the Lord our God has "Elected" an individual to be saved, how can you say that He has not also "Predestined" that same person to be saved? I agree that we are dealing with two different words, but surely both are part of the same process? Every blessing. Edwin. |
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34 | eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen | Bible general Archive 3 | ebrain | 186277 | ||
Hi Mark. You say. "I believe God is fair, and I likewise believe that none have merit. I think God intervenes in each of our lives, and we have a choice to make, whether to accept His intervention, or reject it." When I said... "Tell me did Job fear God of his own free will, or as Satan said, because of what God had done for Job, when the Lord gave Satan permission to take away the blessing?" , and also,, "Do you mean to tell me that God said the above, knowing full well that it is an impossibility for any man to "turn from his ways and live?" Your reply was. "I agree entirely with these points you are making.". Then let me ask you a question.. Would you say that God's description of Job indicates that this man had "Merit", or not, and if not just what was it that Job had that God was referring to? You also said... "I think that God does this to everyone, and that as each person, at some point in their life adequately understands that they have the option to receive or reject, if they receive, then they are regenerated, or born again". Now if "God does this to everyone", then please explain. Jhn 6:44 “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. And I will raise him up on the last day. and, Jhn 6:65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” In light of... Jhn 6:37 “All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. Jhn 6:38 “For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me. Jhn 6:39 “And this is the will of him who sent me, that I should lose nothing of all that he has given me, but raise it up on the last day. 1Cr 1:26 For consider your calling, brothers: not many of you were wise according to worldly standards,* not many were powerful, not many were of noble birth. Mat 7:14 “For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few. Jesus said,, "All that the Father gives me will come to me,," You have said,, "God does this to everyone".. Now this would mean that all people would come to Christ for salvation, and He said,,"and whoever comes to me I will never cast out"... Which would mean that the entire human race would be saved, whereas Scripture tells us,," and those who find it are few". It is possible that my understanding of these verses is incorrect, if so then please feel free to correct me. Bless you brother. Edwin. |
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35 | Books called The Law and The Profits | OT general | ebrain | 178257 | ||
There are actually three divisions to that part of our Bible that we christians refer to as the Old Testament. They are. THE TORAH the first five books allready refered to. THE PROPHETS consist of eight books: Joshua, Judges, 1st and 2nd Samuel, 1st and 2nd Kings, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, The Twelve Prophets (Hosea; Joel; Amos; Obadiah; Jonah; Micah; Nahum; Habakkuk; Zephaniah; Haggai; Zechariah; Malachi). THE WRITINGS consist of eleven books: Psalms, Proverbs, Job, The Song of Songs, Ruth,Lamentations, Ecclesiastes, Esther, Daniel. Ezra and Nehemiah, 1st and 2nd Chronicles. This division, or something similar to it was refered to by our Lord at Luke 24 vs 27 and 44. ebrain. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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36 | Books called The Law and The Profits | OT general | ebrain | 178387 | ||
The whole of the Jewish Boble is refered to as the "Tanakh". The word Tanach is actually a Hebrew Acronym, that refers to Torah,Neviim, and Khetuvim. The word Torah, which literally means "teaching" refers to the Five Books of Moses. The word Neviim is the Hebrew word for "Prophets", The word "Khetuvim" is the Hebrew for the word "Writings". When you take the first letters of each word together, you get the word "TaNaKH", (The extra vowels (the two "a"s) are there simply to give the word some sounding). Torah, Neviim, and Ketuvim, are really considered sections. Amongst each section are the books allready refered to. ebrain. |
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37 | Prisoners? | NT general Archive 1 | ebrain | 161646 | ||
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38 | Who created God? | Gen 1:1 | ebrain | 178266 | ||
Thank you K252i for your post, glad to have been of help. ebrain. |
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39 | What does God say on birth control? | Gen 1:28 | ebrain | 166660 | ||
I believe that Onan was killed because of his sin, in that he used a Divine requirment for his own pleasure, and not for the reason that the Law intended. I do not believe that this incident can de taken as God's condemnation of contraseption. |
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40 | Does anyone know whrn the beginning was? | Gen 1:31 | ebrain | 165252 | ||
Are you using the Prophetic year of 360 days, or the Solar year of approx 365.25 years? | ||||||
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