Subject: eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen |
Bible Note: Hi again Mark. and thank you for your input. You said. "As I use the terms "regeneration" and "re-birth", I am speaking of exactly the same thing by both. It is this deliverance that we speak of when we say "salvation." Salvation is an ongoing process that includes "regeneration", there is an order and sequence of events, for example, you are saved, you are being saved, you will be saved, sanctification is also included, whereas, "conversion", on the other hand, is a once and for all never to be repeated moment it time, You have done what Romans 10:9, tells you to do, You know that you are saved, that all your sins have been forgiven, that you have become a Christian, you now have a new life. Regeneration is what The Lord has done to you in advance, in order that you might be able to understand "Spiritual things", and therefore be able to do what Rom 10:9. tells you to do.. You go on to say. "I'm not certain. I want to be clear in what I believe. You wrote something rather intriguing: "firstly the Lord plants His seed (not the Holy Spirit)". The reason is that the Holy Spirit dose not take up residence within you, until you do what is required at,, Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, You do not receive the Holy Spirit, until you believe, and you cannot believe if God has not first planted His seed in you, therefore the Holy Spirit cannot possibly be the seed, I have already dealt with this problem to some extent when you asked a question about,, Eph 1:4 just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love, and I explained at the time just how it was possible for you to be "in Him". long before you were born. Every blessing brother. Edwin. |