Subject: eph 1:4-5 what is predestination, chosen |
Bible Note: Hi Tim I think I would want to argue that in context Jesus is talking about the arrival of the time when all nations - not just Israel - will come into the people of God. Greeks have just requested to see Jesus (John 12:20,21) and Jesus sees this as a significant moment. He is about to be lifted up on the cross and this will be followed (after the resurrection and Pentecost) by the worldwide preaching of the gospel. "All men" cannot mean every single person in the world. The verb "to draw" is a very strong word and is used in John 21 of the disciples dragging a net full of 153 fish onto the beach! If Jesus is here promising to draw every person in the world to himself he clearly failed to do so. I don't want to be drawn(!) into a debate on this issue as I am sure it has been fully aired on previous occasions. May the Lord bless your ministry. Apollos |