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141 | how can we loose our salvation. | NT general Archive 1 | zach† | 34430 | ||
Lionstrong; If you re-read my post to etta, you will see that I gave her only scripture references, without any of my own commentaries attached to them. etta asked for verses and i provided them. So what i used was Scripture alone. If you think I wrote those verses ...... well you know I didn't. In Christ zach† |
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142 | do we have any free will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34376 | ||
Curt Sometimes I chose to, one other time I fell off. But no one ever threw me off. But either way I got off before the final destination. In Christ zach† |
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143 | do we have any free will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34368 | ||
Curt; I know all about tokens. I use to ride subways and trains. And sometimes I decided to get off before I reached the end of the rail. In Christ zach† |
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144 | We are to know about al of the Churches | Revelation | zach† | 34365 | ||
Concerning the message to the 7 churches in Asia Minor we repeatedly read: "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." That same message is current for all churches in all ages. We need to hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches today. God is not silent. So what is the Spirit saying to your church or to you as an individual? Do you have ears to hear? In Christ zach† |
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145 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34335 | ||
Curt; I'm still seeking God's direction myself concerning all the questionable texts that Christian's discuss. There are no easy answers to be sure In Christ zach† |
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146 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34334 | ||
Cur†; Matthew 10 is Jesus instructions to his disciples to prepare them. Mt 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Mt 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; 18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. Jesus was telling his disciples about persecution, not whether they would or would not lose salvation. This text does not deal with whether or not salvation can be lost. 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the (physical body, not spiritual) body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. This text In the next text you posted from John; John 10 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. Didn't Jesus say that no man can pluck us out of His hand? Yes He did. And in the preceding verse Jesus indentified those who are held securely in His hand. "My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they FOLLOW me;The ones who cannot be plucked out of Christ's hand are the sheep who hear His voice and follow Him. They are obedient to His teaching. if ye turn away, and forsake my ... commandments, ... Then will I pluck them up ... and ... cast (them) out of my sight (2 Chr. 7:19-20) The protection is from enemies without who seek to carry off the sheep, but not from unfaithfulness of the sheep who might choose not to follow any longer. This safety is only from forces outside the believer and God Himself. A backslider removes himself from the promises of safety and security. He is not removed against his own will. John 10:29 is a great promise that no man can pluck believers out of their Father's hand. That is what it teaches. It does not teach that you cannot, as a believer, walk out of His hands. It simply teaches that man cannot take you out of God's hands, but it does not talk about your own ability to choose to leave His hands. In Christ zach† |
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147 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | zach† | 34325 | ||
Norrie; Thanks for that reply; To add to what you have already stated let me add the following; Paul wrote about some who "made ship-wreck of their faith" (1 Tim. 1:19,20) unlike many in our day Paul did not say of these who shipwrecked their faith, they were never really saved to begin with. In Christ zach† |
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148 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34324 | ||
Curt; let me post what my favorite Christian author said; Failure to distinguish the part of God from the part of man in salvation has prevented countless seekers from finding peace, and left whole sections of the Church of Christ powerless for long periods of time. There are some things which only God can do, and there are other things which only man can do It is vain for us to try to do the work which can only be done by sovereign grace; it is equally vain for us to implore God to do what has been commanded by sovereign authority. Among the things which only God can do, is the work of redemption. That glorious work owes nothing to the effort of any man; It was all of God, and man could simply have no part. Christ’s work on Calvary made atonement for every man, but it did not save any man. Salvation is personal. It is redemption made effective toward the individual. Salvation is the work of God in the heart, made possible by the work of God on the Cross. Both the once-done work of redemption and the many-times-multiplied work of salvation are in the class of things which only God can do. No man can forgive his own sins; no man can regenerate his own heart; no man can declare himself justified and clean. All this is the work of God in man Universal atonement makes salvation universally available, but it does not make it universally effective toward the individual. If atonement was made for all men, why are not all saved? The answer is that before redemption becomes effective toward the individual man there is an act which that man must do. That act is not one of merit, but of condition. THIS ACT OF APPROPRIATING SALVATION IS ONE WHICH ONLY MAN CAN DO. Failure to distinguish God’s part from man’s has resulted in mental confusion and moral inaction among Christians. In the things-which-God-cannot-do category is this: God cannot do our repenting for us. In our efforts to magnify grace we have so preached the truth as to convey the impression that repentance is a work of God. This is a grave mistake, and one which is taking a frightful toll among Christians everywhere. God has commanded all men to repent. It is a work which only they can do. It is morally impossible for one person to repent for another. Even Christ could not do this. He could die for us, but He cannot do our repenting for us. God in His mercy may “incline” us to repent and by His inworking Spirit assist us to repent; but before we can be saved we must of our own free will repent toward God and believe in Jesus Christ. This the Bible plainly teaches Repentance involves moral reformation. The wrong practices are on man’s part, and only man can correct them. Lying, for instance, is an act of man, and one for which he must accept full responsibility. When he repents he will quit lying. God will not quit lying for him; he will quit for himself. When stated thus frankly everything seems obvious enough and we may wonder how reasonable persons could expect someone else to relieve them of their personal obligation to repent. The “all has been done, you can do nothing” emphasis has caused no end of confusion among seekers everywhere. People are told, they can do nothing in the direction of salvation; even to suggest such a thing is to offend God: So they are tossed helplessly between the first Adam and the last Adam. One did their sinning for them and the other has done everything else. Thus the nerve of their moral life is cut and they sink back in despair, afraid to move lest they be guilty of sinful self effort. At the same time they are deeply troubled with the knowledge that there is something seriously wrong with their religious lives. The remedy is to see clearly that men are not lost because of what someone did thousands of years ago; they are lost because they sin individually and in person. We will never be judged for Adam’s sin, but for our own. For our own sins we are and must remain fully responsible The idea that we can delegate repentance is an erroneous inference drawn from the doctrine of grace wrongly presented and imperfectly understood. Another thing God cannot do: He cannot believe for us. Faith is a gift of God, to be sure, but whether or not we shall act upon that faith lies altogether within our own power. The realization that we are personally responsible for our individual sins may be a shock to our hearts, but it will clear the air and remove the uncertainty. Returning sinners waste their time begging God to perform the very acts He has sternly commanded them to do. Repent and believe is the order. Faith will follow repentance, and salvation will be the outcome. Any interpretation of free grace which relieves the sinner of responsibility to repent is not of God nor in accordance with revealed truth. They listen to the sermon and then go their way, waiting in vain for God to do the things He has commanded them to do. Until this is corrected we can hope for very little power in our churches. (Tozer) |
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149 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34321 | ||
Joe! To answer your question; "would we be the slightest bit willing to embrace Christ were we not enabled and persuaded by the Holy Spirit to do so?" My answer is absolutely not. I'm sorry my answer is not in much more detail at this time, but because of how busy I currently am, I hope to address this topic in much greater detail in the very near future, if the Lord tarries. And at that time, I plan to outline my thoughts using Scripture as my authority. Until then In Christ zach† |
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150 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34320 | ||
Cur†; to answer your question: "The question is... does the warning apply to only people groups, or also to individual salvation." The following scripture initially comes to mind. Gal. 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. So from that text, I think is possible to say that leaven (which usually refers to sin) can begin in an individual and then spread corperately, through the body. But more importantly in John 15:2 which reads: John 15:2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. branch in this verse is treated as being singular. The termnology used for branch in this verse is "it' not they or them, etc. One last thought I have concerns some text in Rev. concerning the 7 churches of Asia. Rev. 3:4 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy. In the church of Sardis their were only a FEW which had not been defiled and had soiled their garments. Few can mean a remnant I believe. So although not all in Sardis were defiled, the majority were. In Christ zach† |
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151 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | zach† | 34314 | ||
Joel; In spite of all those statements concerning Heb. 6:4-6 from Spurgeon, he still finally maintained his firm position with the Calvinist's 5th point of TULIP. That being Perseverance of the Saints I cannot help to think that he seemed to be straddling the fence on the issue, as he seems to on many other topics in my reading of him. In Christ zach† |
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152 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | zach† | 34312 | ||
Tim; to insert the cross after your name do the following 1) Engage Num Lock key 2) While holding down the ALT key on your keyboard, type 0134 from your Number pad and let off your alt key, and † you have a cross. Thank you for your quick response concerning Heb. 12:17, I was wondering whether the birthright in that text could be carried over in the New Testament to a Christian's birthright? I haven't went into a detailed study of that text yet, but will in the future, once I can find the time In Christ zach_† |
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153 | baptismal regeneration? | John 3:3 | zach† | 34305 | ||
Emmaus; No offense taken. However we still will have to agree to disagree on this baptism issue. In Christ zach† |
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154 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34304 | ||
Curt; Actually "robots" are not mentioned in scripture. That is my point. In Christ zach† |
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155 | What is Free Will? | Bible general Archive 1 | zach† | 34303 | ||
Lionstrong; Let me simply say; Without choice love is rendered as something meaningless. A relationship is bilateral-"it takes two." Love can go one way, but a relationship is two-way. Relationships are ongoing dynamic sort of things which take two (at least partially) willing persons. The relationship that God wants to enter into with us is not a love which is forced upon us. In Christ zach† |
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156 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34300 | ||
Robert; Thank you for you response. I agree with your statements and just want to add to what you stated so well, that you may be able to understand my thoughts on this. You stated; "he saves us daily as we walk with Him" I say amen Jerry Bridges in his wonderful book made the following comment. "God has made it posible for us to walk in holiness. But He has given us the responsibility of doing the walking." Scripture says: Gal. 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, LET US ALSO WALK IN THE SPIRIT. Concerning the three-fold aspect of salvation which you touched upon I also agree, just my wording is a bit different as you will see as I now post it. Salvation is in 3 tenses. Justification (We have been saved - past tense) from the penalty of sin. Sanctification (We are being saved - present tense) from the power of sin. (and to get into another discussion of positional and on-going sanctification is a whole other topic that I won't go into detail about at this time Glorification (We yet shall be saved - future tense) from the presence of sin. In Christ zach† |
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157 | cut off | Rom 11:22 | zach† | 34296 | ||
Curt; I never said they "are still in him" The text says that there are some that are "cut off" who were a one time "in him" No branch can be cut off that has not been previously attached. Look at John 15:2 again John 15:2 EVERY BRANCH IN ME THAT BEARETH NOT FRUIT HE TAKETH AWAY: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. In Christ zach† |
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158 | what does Hebrews 6v4-6 mean? | Heb 6:4 | zach† | 34290 | ||
Nolan; There is nothing in either the language or the context to indicate that the instances of apostasy cited in Heb. 6:4-6 are only hypothetical. Those who hold to the unconditional eternal security position take this text to say that “this is not a warning of apostasy, but rather a warning against imagining that apostasy is possible.” Their reasoning comes from Paul’s statement “But beloved, we are persuaded better things of you.” They fail to reckon with the transition from the third person (those, they, and them) in verses 4-6 to the second person (you) in verse 9. The writer is persuaded of better things for “you” not “them” |
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159 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | zach† | 34289 | ||
Brother Tim; How do you think the following scripture might be applied to the repentance issue you addressed? Heb 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he (Esau) would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. In Christ zach† |
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160 | Hebrews 6:4 | Heb 6:4 | zach† | 34288 | ||
The following is a testimony of former-Senator, and pro basketball player Bill Bradley. "I've made my choice," wrote the young basketball star. "I love Jesus Christ and I try to serve Him to the best of my ability. How about you?" It may surprise you to learn the tract was written 30 years ago by former Senator Bill Bradley. Bradley has since renounced his Christian beliefs,and his actions are a warning of the perils of political expediency--and of not holding our fellow believers accountable. The pamphlet, titled "I've Made My Choice," was published in the 1960s by the American Tract Society when Bradley was a rookie with the New York Knicks. In it, Bradley recounts how he accepted Christ while a student at Princeton. "I knew I had been giving my life to the wrong goals," he wrote. "I knew then that I wanted to give my life to Jesus Christ and His service." Not anymore, it appears. In his 1996 memoirs, Bradley says he was put off by the exclusive truth claims of fundamentalist Christianity. He was also bothered by the uncharitable attitudes and racism displayed by some Christians. Bradley now disavows his Christian beliefs and,according to "Investor's Business Daily," says he "now embraces all religions" from Buddhism to Islam, so long as they seek "inner peace." These are chilling words from a man who was once very active in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. It appears that he has either renounced his faith entirely--or he decided, for political reasons, to renounce it publicly. Bradley's story is a cautionary tale, not just for Christians who go into politics, but for all of us. Here was a man who was converting others to Christ, and somewhere along the line, he got off the rails. It's a warning that we need to constantly keep ourselves fresh in the faith, to attend discipleship classes, and to hold one another accountable. As for Bradley, I hope and pray he will to reconsider the words that he himself wrote in that long-ago tract: "The choice is simple. It is between the eternal and the passing, between the strong and the weak . . . between Jesus Christ and the world." In Christ zach† |
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