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141 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150510 | ||
Hank: Can you give me a reason why the 10 Commandments were put inside the ark and the sacrificial law was put on the side of the ark? Why the distinguishment? Also, Do you think God had laws in place prior to Sinai given the verse Genesis 26:5 ? Merv |
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142 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150519 | ||
Doc: Very good questions !! But God ruled as a theocracy. Israel was subject to the civil laws of God. They did not have the power of the Holy Spirit as we do now. Israel was under God's government since they were the only nation following God. Now all the nations can follow God but these nations have their own civil governments. The sacrificial laws were abolished at the cross. The 10 comm. have and will stand forever. Gen. 26:5 shows that God's law existed prior to Sinai. The Sabbath was created prior to sin. The 7th day was sanctified and made holy. Saying the Sabbath was only for the Jews goes directly against Isaiah 56:4. In love, Merv |
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143 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150565 | ||
Hank: I apreciate our discussions. There is debate on the answer to my questions and since you take the position that we are no longer under the law, I was just wanting your opinion on those questions. Obviously. the different laws were put in defferent places for a reason. My understanding is that te 10 Commandments were perfect and never to be changed. But the sacrificial laws would be done away with by Christ's death on the cross. Law must always be present for sin to occur. That is clear in the NT. That is why God imposed an law in the garden. Unfortunately, Satan was able to tempt man to sin which is breaking God's law. God expects obedience. In marriage the partners expect loyalty but it is not dictated but done out of love. Grace is the result of God's mercy to allow us to come to repentance of our sinful nature. But on repenting we must show God our love and changed heart towards sin by not sinning anymore. Sanctification comes from us being justified by His grace through our faith. Our faith is reflected to God by how we act towards Him. Look forward to your comments. Merv |
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144 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150566 | ||
Hank: Please do not make this discussion into an authority issue. We both know God is the sole authority, but our discussion lies in the the truth of scripture. I believe my interpretation of how te "law" applies to te NT is correct and TRUTH. You disagree becuause you feel you ave understood the truth. So we are at a cross-roads. We both cannot have truth is one thinks there is not a 7th day Sabbath and no dietary laws - while the other (me) believes there is a 7th day Sabbath and there remains unclean animals which God instructs us not to eat. So our discussion revolves around search for the truth. Truth lies in proper understanding of scripture which will reveal te TRUTH. God is perfect and is TRUTH. The main question comes to this point: Wat laws apply to te NT Christian. It is undeniable that must must obey His commandments. But what are they ?? I believe that many people (Chritians) are not informed on how much truth has been changed by traditions. As I have stated many times - I grew up as a boy keeping Sunday and eating pork. My pareents never said there was never an issue and I heard no discussions from the pulpit on these issues. It was not until 2 years ago tat a fellow worker asked me questions that I could not answer. In my search to tell him the truth about why I worshiped on Sunday and ate pork, I discovered that the scripture did not support my positions. It is a pretty humbling experience to find out my beliefs had been based on misinterpreted scriptures. I am here to have share my experience. I respect the discussions and realize that I took many of the same positions prior to really examining if my positions were based on TRUTH. In love, Merv |
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145 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150567 | ||
Doc: As far as I understand the scriptures, grace is the mercy God reveals to man. Noah was only saved becuase of God's grace. Grace is present prior to the NT. God's grace does not save us but rather our faith justifies us. Our faith is reflected in our obedience. Law does not save nor justify the sinner. But law points out our sin and brings us to repentance and right rerlationship to God. Using law as a justifier is where the Jews went wrong because the law was not kept from the heart. God's law remains perfect. It is now written on our hearts as part of te NT covenant. Through the Holy Spirit we who have faith and love for Jesus can now keep the law. We are no longer "under the law" becuase we have the power to go onward "and sin no more" as Jesus told the sinful woman. Jesus's death atones for sin and therefore sacrificial laws not longer exist. The sacrificial laws were to show the Jews the penalty tat Christ would endure to atone for sins. Those laws were a shaddow of the coming Perfect sacrifice. God's grace gives us the opportunity to repent to God and have faith that He has atoned for our sins. But to continue is sin will result in 1 John 2:4. In love, Merv |
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146 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 150676 | ||
Hi Doc: I fully agree about authoruty !! But do not accuse me of representing authority - I do not think you would like the same accusation. We are discussing interpretation. Sole authority belong to God. The error comes from interpretation. I do not think anyone who claims to follow Christ should be accused of taking any authority away from God. Now there are many differences in doctrines within the Christian community. Where the challege is to all Christians is to seek the truth based on the authority of God and not on the tradition of man's interpretation of scripture. Doc, you use "we" as I guess you must felt led to speack for "all" on this forum. Everyone is free to discuss or not. I respect everyones opinion but take each "individually" into account. In love, Merv |
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147 | Partly under the Law? | Col 2:14 | swerv | 151100 | ||
Hi: I agree with your statements and I also am amazed how the truth is ignored. Could you give me some scriptures in the NT from your experience that clearly show a separation between moral and ceremonial law. Thanks Swerv |
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148 | Sabbath is Saturday or not ?? | Col 2:16 | swerv | 146054 | ||
Sabbath response: I grew up in a Sunday worship Church but recently I was challeged on what day is the weekly day God made Holy and Sactified for rest and worship of God our creator. I fimly believe, after two years searching for the truth, that Saturday from sun down to sundown is the true Sabbath of the 4th commandment. There is historical that the changing of the worship day is a fulfillment of Daniel 7:25. Look forward to comments, Merv |
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149 | Sabbath is Saturday or not ?? | Col 2:16 | swerv | 146060 | ||
Hi Emmas: Thanks for the reply. I see you have found by poor sentence structure. I see you have a good grasp of scripture. I see that you are Catholic. I hjope you do not take personal offence to may comments on the early Roman Catholic Church. I see you propose an alternative interpretation to Daniel. I look forward to our discussion. From the research I have done over the past two years it seems quite evident that the persecuting power of Daniel 7:25 is the Roman Catholic Church system. In my research, I have found statements from Catholic Popes, priests and scholars that they take responsibility for the change of the Sabbath from 7th day to 1st day. I have even read statements from Catholics who ridicule the protestants for not reforming the Sabbath since the change came only by their divine change since there is no scriptural evidence in the bible of a change. I believe the 4th beast you quoted is the Roman empire and the persecuting power which has power is the Roman Catholic Church. The power went from the emperors to the Popes. In Daniel 11:6, I believe the king's daughter of he south is Berenice daughter of Ptolemy, King of Egypt. Antiochus Theos, King of Syria put away his wife, Laodice, and her two sons, declaring them to be illegitimate. Antiochus dismissed his wife Laodice, according to the treaty, and went to receive his future bride. Ptolemy carried his daughter to Pelusium, put her on board his fleet, ans sailed with her to Selucia, a sea-port town near the mouth of the River Orantes, in Syri; where, having met Antichos, he delivered his daughter to him with immense dowry, so that Ptolemy received the appellation of "the dowry giver." The peace was ratified. I do not know if this is the same Antichus you were referring to but I thought this might be interesting for you. Look forward to your comments, Merv |
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150 | details of curtain in temple splitting | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152250 | ||
Very good information. Thanks for sharing the details of te curtain. The fact that the priest had to be sinless when entering the presence of God in the Holy of Holies should emphasize that man now is to be sinless. Many people do not like to hear this but God does not tolerate sin and to be i right relationship and to live as Christ lived - we must be sinless. We are all sinners but God's grace of forgiveness give us the opportunity to now live as God intended - which is as obedient to His laws and Word. Merv |
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151 | If all sacrafices ended, then why Acts 2 | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152251 | ||
Good point ! The Word of God cannot be contradictory. The Perfect Sacrifice replaced all future sacrifices and in fact to sacrifice is to make Jesus death of no effect. This area is of great controversy within the Church because these sacrificial laws are what was done away with at the cross. But moral laws and other guidelines given by God are still relevant and applicable to the NT Christian. Merv |
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152 | If all sacrafices ended, then why Acts 2 | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152386 | ||
True but it was the non-believing Jews who continued to sacrifice. The city was not destroyed because God's prophecy of 70 weeks of years (490) of probationary time for the Jews to repent was not completed until 3.5 years after Jesus's death. Sacrificing makes Jesus' death of no affect. Merv |
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153 | Was the temple curtain repaired? | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152387 | ||
Maybe we should just stick to asking questions or making notes on specific verses - instead of judging answers given. | ||||||
154 | Was the temple curtain repaired? | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152397 | ||
Ok Doc. - I fully agree. I just don't like comments made without posing a question from scripture or giving a scripture reference. If anyone on the board has an issue they should ask a direct question - instead of making general comments. I have been accused of promoting a certain view about diet and the Sabbath but unfortunately I have been providing scripture. It always comes down to "reasoning" as Paul demonstrated in the NT. We were all given a brain to reason. The problem comes when we let our pride get in front of truth. In love, Merv |
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155 | Was the temple curtain repaired? | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152432 | ||
Hank: We are all free to add "notes" or pose "questions". I welcome your responses but let us try to keep it to scriptural issues. This was your first comment on this string and it is all about me. I would rather discuss issues and if you are not interested I would look somewhere else in the forum to make your comments. I feel my comments fall within the guidelines. But we all have our own opinion. Here is a question: Do you think God - Himself (Ex.31:18)- writing the 10 commandments on the (2) tablets has any correlation to the 10 commandments being summarized by Jesus into (2) broad commandments. The commandments written by God regarding our relationship to Him on 1 tablet and the commandments written by God regarding our relationship to our neighbours written on 1 tablet. The point here is the NT does not re-invent the law but instead repeats the moral law (10 comm.) of the OT. Is.42:21 clearly says Christ would magnify the law. And Ps. 40:7,8 says Jesus delights to do the will of God and thy law is within Jesus's heart. That is why He led a Perfect life on earth and therefore died a sinless man and paying our debt. The law written on our hearts as part of the NT covenant is the same as the law written on Jesus's heart. This is the 10 commandments. The same moral law Abraham was keeping (Gen. 26:5) prior to any written law at Sinai. Look forward to your comments. In love, Merv |
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156 | Was the temple curtain repaired? | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152440 | ||
Dear Doc: "I will be the first to admit pride if I ignore scripture that is clear. But scripture must be reasoned and put in context. Many positions held are in error because people do not reason and "prove all things". I did not say Kalos was prideful. I was generally saying that pride can get in the way of honest and true reasoning. I do not intend to personalize any of my comments. Kalos made a general comment that someone was not providing verses on a certain percentage of notes. I think this is wrong. If you have an issue with a response - then ask a direct question instead of - in my opinion - getting personal by putting down a person's general way of responding. Again, I think this is a great forum and I completely enjoy the feedback and topics discussed. But being direct on asking questions or giving feedback is much better than trying to make personal attacks. We should all respect the views of others and if we wish to not respond directly to scriptural issues - then we should reflect the commands of God. I will be the first now to apologize if I have not followed this advice and will strive to do so in the future. In search of the truth, Merv |
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157 | Was the temple curtain repaired? | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152468 | ||
Good Point !! Question has been added !!! Merv |
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158 | Was the temple curtain repaired? | Heb 9:1 | swerv | 152470 | ||
So this is a good example of a note to be ignored !! | ||||||
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