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1 | positive and negative impact of monarchy | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200489 | ||
booboo, The question is rather vague and I’m assuming the insinuation is to the impact from some biblical perspective or example. That being the case, I dare to say that one positive impact of a monarchy is that you are under the protection of the king. Conversely, you also can fall under his wrath. A few examples I can pull, though there are others I’m sure and probably clearer as well. Romans 13:1-6: 1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. Proverbs 8:15,16: 15 By me kings reign, and princes decree justice. 16 By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth. But these don’t specifically call out types of governments but maybe rather just those in civil authority. I’ve probably posted too much already. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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2 | does this sound familiar? | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 200727 | ||
This does as well: Proverbs 1:28-33: 28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me: 29 For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD: 30 They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. 31 Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. 32 For the turning away of the simple shall slay them, and the prosperity of fools shall destroy them. 33 But whoso hearkeneth unto me shall dwell safely, and shall be quiet from fear of evil. Seems like all five of Gibbon's reasons could be summed up as ungodliness. Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Stand in His grace, WOS |
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3 | need answer | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201226 | ||
You know brother lionheart... It’s so hard to let go of worry and anxiety sometimes. I never really looked into how the word is used in scripture. I don’t think I really understood the actual meaning of the word and am now looking at it in a different light especially regarding yours and sister Azure’s notes. Even when I think it could be a positive thing, I’m not so sure it is. I ran across some info from R.C. Sproul that I found interesting and wanted to share as well. Philippians 4:6 do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. “Elsewhere, the apostle Paul in writing to the Philippians gives them the admonition to be “anxious for nothing,” telling them that the cure for anxiety is found on one’s knees, that it is the peace of God that calms our spirit and dissipates anxiety. Again, we can be anxious and nervous and worried without finally submitting to ultimate despair. This coexistence of faith and spiritual depression is paralleled in other biblical statements of emotive conditions. We are told that it is perfectly legitimate for believers to suffer grief. Our Lord Himself was a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. Though grief may reach to the roots of our souls, it must not result in bitterness. Grief is a legitimate emotion, at times even a virtue, but there must be no place in the soul for bitterness. In like manner, we see that it is a good thing to go to the house of mourning, but even in mourning, that low feeling must not give way to hatred. The presence of faith gives no guarantee of the absence of spiritual depression; however, the dark night of the soul always gives way to the brightness of the noonday light of the presence of God.” – R.C Sproul http://www.ligonier.org/tabletalk/2008/3/1042_The_Dark_Night_of_the_Soul From Ligonier Ministries and R.C. Sproul. © Tabletalk magazine. Website: www.ligonier.org/tabletalk. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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4 | Others have no right to judge only GOD!! | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 201720 | ||
Excellent post brother. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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5 | Predistination and God | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 202006 | ||
Sandra, In the mean time, until Doc gets back to you, you can see some of his other posts concerning the subject by entering the following numbers into the search box. 151423 or 160067. "Predestination is the gracious act of God by which he determines to save a people for himself. In other words, in the Bible, predestination is always related to the work of God in Christ in terms of bringing an entire people to know him and serve him. Now, it is true, and we know from many Scriptures, that God has decreed all things that come to pass. But this specific word which is translated "predestined" is always used in the context of God's purpose in saving his people." - Barry Hofstetter - "Perspectives on Predestination" Stand in His grace, WOS |
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6 | Anything asked will be given | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 202350 | ||
You ask ”Can you give me a bible quote that says that God will not answer the faithful prayers of his church if it is not his will.” So was Paul lacking in faith when his requests weren’t answered in the manner he desired or was this request outside of God’s will? 2Corinthians 12:7-10: 7 So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. 8 Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. 9 But he said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness." Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong. “It is one of the instances in which the fervent prayer of a good man, offered undoubtedly in faith, was not answered in the form in which he desired, though substantially answered in the assurance of grace sufficient to support him. It furnishes, therefore, a very instructive lesson in regard to prayer, and shows as that we are not to expect as a matter of course that all our prayers will be literally answered, and that we should not be disappointed or disheartened if they are not. It is a matter of fact that not all the prayers even of the pious, and of those who pray having faith in God as a hearer of prayer, are literally answered. Thus, the prayer of David 2Sa_12:16-20 was not literally answered; the child for whose life he so earnestly prayed died. So the Saviour’s request was not literally answered, Mar_14:36. The cup of suffering which he so earnestly desired should be taken away was not removed. So in the case before us; compare also Deu_3:23-27; Job_30:20; Lam_3:8. So in numerous cases now, Christians pray with fervour and with faith for the removal of some calamity which is not removed; or for something which they regard as desirable for their welfare which is withheld. Some of the reasons why this is done are obvious:” – Albert Barnes Barnes further pointed out the following as the obvious: “The grace that will be imparted if the calamity is not removed will be of greater value to the individual than would be the direct answer to his prayer.” “It might not be for the good of the individual who prays that the exact thing should be granted.” “God has often some better thing in store for us than would be the immediate answer to our prayer Who can doubt that this was true of Paul?” “It would not be well for us, probably, should our petition be literally answered. Who can tell what is best for himself? If the thing were obtained, who can tell how soon we might forget the benefactor and become proud and self-confident?” People get more answers than they think, they just overlook them because they aren’t what the expected or what they knew they would receive. As if we know better than God. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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7 | Anything asked will be given | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 202419 | ||
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8 | Acts 13:1 | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 203817 | ||
Dear Jamison, You claim that the idea of soul sleep has “plenty of biblical basis”. Please support that with scripture references. Concerning your reference to Solomon, Ecclesiastes 12:7 says otherwise: Ecclesiastes 12:7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. And we don’t do others disservice for shooting down a theology that isn’t in harmony with scripture. We do Christ a disservice as well as the individual for not correcting them. Any interpretation doesn’t amount to a hill of beans if it is not the truth. Concerning your reference to Matthew 25 and it only mentioning works: You are not looking at this with all of scripture in mind… Take for example James 2:26 and what Matthew Henry wrote concerning it: “Faith is the root, good works are the fruits, and we must see to it that we have both. We must not think that either, without the other, will justify and save us. This is the grace of God wherein we stand, and we should stand to it.” – Matthew Henry As well the following: “If faith produces no fruit of good living, that fact proves that it is dead, that it has no power, and that it is of no value. This shows that James was not arguing against real and genuine faith, nor against its importance in justification, but against the supposition that mere faith was all that was necessary to save a man, whether it was accompanied by good works or not. He maintains that if there is genuine faith it will always be accompanied by good works, and that it is only that faith which can justify and save.” – Albert Barnes What is the root of the good works described in Matthew 25:31-46? Faith? What is the root concerning the lack of good works? There is none because faith is lacking. Please support your claims with scripture. As Matthew Henry points out: “This is the grace of God wherein we stand, and we should stand to it.” Stand in His grace, WOS |
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9 | Acts 13:1 | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 203831 | ||
Brother lionheart, I'm actually looking for a site as well. All I have as of now is his commentary that I downloaded with E-Sword. I'm sorry I haven't more than that right now. If you happen to find a good source, please let me know. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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10 | Acts 13:1 | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 203838 | ||
Dear Jamison, I’d like to point you to how Paul instructs Timothy: 2Timothy 2:15-18: 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. 16 But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness, 17 and their talk will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have swerved from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already happened. They are upsetting the faith of some. …“The way of error is down-hill; one absurdity being granted or contended for, a thousand follow: Their word will eat as doth a canker, or gangrene; when errors or heresies come into the church, the infecting of one often proves the infecting of many, or the infecting of the same person with one error often proves the infecting of him with many errors. Upon this occasion the apostle mentions some who had lately advanced erroneous doctrines: Hymeneus and Philetus. He names these corrupt teachers, by which he sets a brand upon them, to their perpetual infamy, and warns all people against hearkening to them. They have erred concerning the truth, or concerning one of the fundamental articles of the Christian religion, which is truth.”… …“ Observe, 1. The babblings Timothy was to shun were profane and vain; they were empty shadows, and led to profaneness: For they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2. Error is very productive, and on that account the more dangerous: it will eat like a gangrene. 3. When men err concerning the truth, they always endeavour to have some plausible pretence for it. Hymeneus and Philetus did not deny a resurrection, but pretended it was already past. 4. Error, especially that which affects the foundation, will overthrow the faith of some.”… - Matthew Henry This is for your consideration. This is the trail we embark upon when we do not “just brush under the rug any doctrine that does not line up with ours as if it is nonsense” when in fact it is nonsense. And I can say that concerning soul sleep, because the Bible does not support this at all. Considering other views is not really the issue I see. I’m learning and growing and continue to do so and have and probably will again, alter my position to harmonize with scripture when it does not. And I cannot at this point comment on your mention of how ruwach is used and what this might imply, but also at this point don’t feel it would enhance this look into soul sleep and advocating “other doctrines” concerning it. I can say that the verses you posted cannot support soul sleep because we know scripture doesn’t contradict itself and the following are pretty clear with what happens in the place of soul sleep: Luke 23:43 And he said to him, "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise." Ecclesiastes 12:7 and the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. 2Corinthians 5:6-8: 6 So we are always of good courage. We know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord, 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 Yes, we are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord. Philippians 1:23 I am hard pressed between the two. My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better. Just for info, I don’t see the relevance of much of the scripture you posted concerning our topics: Job 10:20 talks of his living days on Earth and they are few for all of us, this has nothing to do with the subject. Job 14:7-17: Again this is speaking of physical death… Psalms 6:5 : See Psalm 16:10. Ezekiel 18:4: the soul that sins will see the second death and be separated from God for all eternity. None of these, and I didn’t hit on all of what you posted, support soul sleep as I see it. I think this is a subject that can linger on and maybe we should stop it here. I’ll end this post saying that to consider a doctrine that is in no way supported by scripture is dangerous and to condone such is harmful. I’ll close by giving you the last response friend. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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11 | Acts 13:1 | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 203856 | ||
Great comparison Val. I like how you put that. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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12 | Idiom? | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205571 | ||
From what I can gather, it wasn’t an idiom if it was understood by those the words were spoken to. From what I can gather, and I wasn’t there so I must rely on those far more knowledgeable than I, but it was understood by the audience that a part of a day would constitute a whole day. “It will be seen in the account of the resurrection of Christ that he was in the grave but two nights and a part of three days. See Mat_18:6. This computation is, however, strictly in accordance with the Jewish mode of reckoning. If it had “not” been, the Jews would have understood it, and would have charged our Saviour as being a false prophet, for it was well known to them that he had spoken this prophecy, Mat_27:63. Such a charge, however, was never made; and it is plain, therefore, that what was “meant” by the prediction was accomplished.” - Albert Barnes Matthew 27:62,63: 62 Now the next day, that followed the day of the preparation, the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, 63 Saying, Sir, we remember that that deceiver said, while he was yet alive, After three days I will rise again. Just because we may have difficulty understanding a phrase or word usage in our time, doesn’t mean they didn’t understand it perfectly when it was spoken. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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13 | Idiom? | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 205629 | ||
Jim, Your study has not produced sufficient evidence for you to see that when the words were spoken, it was NOT an idiom because it was well understood at the time, and I believe there was scriptural evidence provided to support that it was, as well as some reliable commentary. So clearly there is some other means that makes it difficult for you to understand what the meaning is. It would seem, simply, that was the manner of speaking in that day. Since neither you nor I were actually there, we must also rely on the wisdom of those who have proven reliable and devoted their lives to helping us better understand God’s words and the times in which they were spoken. Words and phrases and manners of speaking do change over time and the words spoken can have a sure meaning to the present audience and us, in our time and culture, we may have difficulty understanding them. That doesn’t by definition make it an idiom, just simply from another time and more difficult to comprehend without proper instruction. Now, you claim this to be an idiom “outside of scripture”, that someone at sometime decided it was an idiom. That is just wrong brother, I don’t know how else to explain it. It’s not an idiom, never was and no matter how strongly you argue it is, will never be. It is Jim that makes the claim it is an idiom, Scripture never does. I’ll stick with the scripture, shouldn’t you? Bottom line seems to be this, rather than arguing this on such shaky ground, maybe you should be in prayer for the proper understanding. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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14 | Clarification needed, Justme | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 207752 | ||
Rolff, Then in the spirit of what you posted, let us pray for all of our leaders and potential leaders and not just single one out. They can all use them. And in love, let's respect that those who were participating in this topic have agreed that this may not be the proper forum to discuss and follow their example. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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15 | the lie | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208013 | ||
Brother Tim, May I take a stab at answering the last question in your post? 2Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; It's much easier to rationalize scripture so it teaches that lying is acceptable. Who doesn't like to have their ears tickled and make things easier? Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. Apparently we can’t take Christ at His word. We must try to make it even easier. Justifying our sins to make them acceptable is the easiest way I know to accomplish that. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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16 | the lie | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208022 | ||
Val, I've judged nobody. If you have taken offense to my post dear sister, you should search yourself for the reason you took offense. I mentioned no names nor did I imply an individual it was meant for. It was a generic response. My post was to Tim and the answer seemed appropriate. I'll be judged on my words and I'm fine with that. If I've erred, unintentionally for sure, God's grace has me covered. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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17 | the lie | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 208032 | ||
Val, In haste, my response posted was very selfish. I should have said something more to the tune, if either of us have erred, His grace has us covered. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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18 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209309 | ||
That’s a rather harsh judgment sister, for you to cast upon the people of that region, not necessarily supported by anything specific. Your reference to scripture is vast and raises questions if I may put just a few of them forth here? Was Katrina a punishment or a warning? If punishment and delivered by the hand of God, what were the warnings? Since you believe Katrina was God acting upon New Orleans, would you please elaborate on how you have arrived at that conclusion, specifics? To say God sent Katrina to New Orleans as a punishment for sin kind of detracts from the fact that Christ already died for our sins does is not? In your affirmation that Katrina was delivered by God, you seem very much akin to Job’s friends and their thinking. In our fallen world, the saved and secure do die terrible deaths, sometimes due to tragedies out of the blue and unexplainable. Are all catastrophes to be considered divine judgment? You closed your post with the following: “I do not have to fear because the Lord has promised that He will never leave me nor forsake me. In all circumstances I am to trust and obey Him”. That does not keep travesty from falling upon the innocent for whatever reason God determines. As was pointed out in this thread, Luke 13 1-5: demonstrates that rather well. The entire book of Job demonstrates that. I feel the same as you do sister, He will never forsake me, that doesn’t eliminate the fact that tomorrow a tornado can fall upon me and take me out. That doesn’t eliminate the fact that a deer can run in front of my vehicle while I’m driving causing me to veer from the roadside to a horrible death in a ditch somewhere. What it leaves us with is that the time to seek God’s grace is now for tomorrow may be too late. In His grace we are secure, in His Son we are secure and that eternally. That doesn’t equate to everything being peachy while we are here. Katrina happened, most recently Ike happened. I personally know many devastated by Ike. I would not dare judge them because I just don’t know. Do you? What I would do is assure them that the travesty was surely allowed by God, because He is sovereign and that is undeniable, but to claim it was a warning or judgment, well I’m just not that sure and would actually need a whole bunch of convincing to actually believe that. Romans 2:1 Therefore you have no excuse, O man, every one of you who judges. For in passing judgment on another you condemn yourself, because you, the judge, practice the very same things. We all need the grace of God. None of us are above that. For what ever reason God allows any specific tragedy, He allows it. As Christians, we’ll suffer loss, and some will suffer greatly. We suffer for Christ or simply because of what this fallen world throws upon us. But these shouldn’t be considered judgments should they? God of course uses such to strengthen us, but… I find the fact that after calamitous tragedies of this sort that there is such a mass returning to God, simply in the fact that people are searching for answers, very intriguing. But to say God has judged New Orleans, I’m not so sure about that. Just some questions and thoughts your post raised. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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19 | God Punished New Orleans with Katrina | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 209364 | ||
Val, My questions were not meant to crucify you as you say. They were serious questions raised by your post. Please do not take them any other way. I’ve read many of your posts sister and you seem very well versed in Scripture and your dedication to the study of the Word is obvious, something you should be commended for. I’ll even admit, you are probably better read than I am, as I’m actively trying to learn more and more all the time. I was simply trying to drive home a point considering why disasters befall us and how important it is for us to look at them for what they are, and how it is supported with Scripture. I think the most important point to look at is that we know not when our so called number is up and we better be standing in God’s grace when that happens. For if we are not… You didn’t upset me this is just an issue I feel strongly about. Our sins have been paid for in full. Katrina, well that storm did nothing for me, directly, except to sadden me for those who suffered and lost and once again to bring to light just how thankful I’m God called me when He did. He’s perfect in everything He does, is He not? I’m not going to elaborate any further concerning this post as I think there are others who have stressed it should end for the reasons noted, as you have, and that is probably best. Please don’t think I’m out to get you Val. Far from it. You help to keep me thinking and digging into scripture and I thank you for that, I truly do. I hope that I at times do the same for you. That’s my aim after all and I know that is yours too. If I have poorly communicated my thoughts, it is me that should be apologizing to you. Stand in His grace, WOS |
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20 | Sell what you have-give alms | Bible general Archive 4 | Wild Olive Shoot | 212264 | ||
flyman, With all due repsect... Are you trying to tell the forum that we will no longer hearing from you? I wish it wasn't so. Stand in his grace, WOS |
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