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1 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | jalanlambert | 115621 | ||
When a christian prays on behalf of someone else, who benefits most, the one being prayed for, or the one praying? | ||||||
2 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 115622 | ||
Since the Bible does not specifically address that question. Any answer would be speculation and we are not allowed to speculate on this forum. :-) But since I'm answering this question in effect it is you asking me. So I will offer my OPINION. Both. To pray for someone else is in fact putting this principle to work. Matthew 22:39 "The second is like it, 'You shall LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' But you must pray in faith that what you pray for be done to the benefit of your neighbor. James 1:6 But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind. Plus we see many examples of others praying for others. Matthew 12:22; Matthew 15:22; Matthew 15:30; Matthew 17:14-18; Mark 1:32; Mark 2:3; Luke 5:18-20; John 4:47; John 4:49 Also we have these examples and admonishments.Genesis 20:7; Exodus 28:12; Exodus 28:29-30; Exodus 28:38; Exodus 32:9-14; Numbers 6:23-26; Numbers 14:11-21; Numbers 16:46-50; Deut. 5:5; Deut. 7:9; Deut. 9:18; Deut. 9:20; Deut. 9:25-29; 1 Samuel 7:5-8; 1 Samuel 12:23; 1 Samuel 15:24-26; 1 Samuel 15:30; Job 1:5; Job 9:32-33; Job 16:21; Job 42:8-10; Psalm 122:6; Isaiah 62:6-7; Isaiah 65:8; Jeremiah 5:1; Jeremiah 7:16; Jeremiah 11:14; Jeremiah 14:11; Jeremiah 15:1; Jeremiah 29:7; Ezekiel 22:30; Matthew 8:5-13; Mark 6:55-56; Ephes. 6:18; 1 Tim. 2:1-2; Hebrews 13:18; James 5:14-20; 1 Peter 2:5; 1 Peter 2:9; 1 John 5:16 I think that should keep us busy for a while. EdB EdB |
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3 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | jalanlambert | 115641 | ||
EdB, I agree that both the person being prayed for and the one praying both benefit, however I get the impression from my own church family that somehow the individuals that pray earnestly for a lost love one for 20 years, believes that their prayers are the reason that the loved one got saved. I believe whether or not that person prayed for 20 years for their loved one is not the determining factor as to whether that person gets saved. To often we become prideful concerning our prayers and GODS answer to these prayers. We are told to pray for GODS will not our own. I believe that GOD would not allow any soul to go to hell without first making sure that the person had every opportunity to accept Jesus Christ as his/her personal Savior. Therefore I believe the greater value to the person praying for a loved one is the growth of that individual to GOD. As we develope a close prayer relationship with GOD our own desires in life now conform to what GODS will is for us thus we are able to pray more accurately to reflect the FATHERS perfect will in our own life. We then claim the fruits of the spirit mentioned in Galatians as the characteristics of our personality. All because we desire GODS will and not our own. EdB, I realize this is just my opinion, and that I did't use any Bible references to help explain my position. I'm interested in what you believe about prayer, and what I just wrote. | ||||||
4 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | EdB | 115667 | ||
jalanlambert I agree we should always pray God's will be done. I also agree that if we pray and it is answered we should not allow ourselves to become prideful and assume it is because of what we prayed. I also agree that the more we pray the closer to God we get or to say it another way the stronger the relationship between God and us becomes. I also believe we have a tendency to pray the solution rather than the problem. In other words we tell God how to fix our problem. We need to learn to pray the problem and trust God for the best solution. In the case of a lost loved one we need to pray for the soul of that loved one. Letting God decide how best to resolve the problem. As far as answering the quesiton was the person saved because of our prayers or not. I can't answer but I can say our prayers didn't hurt. I pray forgivenenss for speculating upon this EdB |
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5 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | Brendac | 115709 | ||
EdB I disagree, we should pray the solution rather than the problem. What I mean by that is we know that God's Word is His will. So if we pray the Word that is the solution we are praying God's will in our situation. In other words if we are ill we should be praying 1 Peter 2:24 for example. If we are in a financial pickle we should be praying Phil. 4:19 etc. It is good to spend time with the the Lord telling him what is bothering you, praising Him and just in general having a conversation or fellowship with Him etc. that builds your relationship with the Lord and that is when He speaks to us. Remember without faith we cannot please God, so we need to apply the Word to every situation in our lives and stand steadfast on that Word/Scripture. However, there is also the prayer of consecration where we have to ask that His will be done in a situation, i.e. application for a job, moving to another town/city etc. where we are dependent on God opening doors. I believe (my opinion) that prayer does do something as far as getting a love one saved is concerned, however, I believe our behaviour and the fruits that we bear plays a very large part in this. People must desire what we have. The word says that wives lead their husbands by their behaviour and their conversation. I cannot believe that that only applies to husbands but applies to all. So basically I don't believe that prayer on its own will do it, but the way we conduct ourselves also play a very large part. |
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6 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | CDBJ | 115721 | ||
Hello Brendac, If what you are saying is true, “we should pray the solution rather than the problem. What I mean by that is we know that God's Word is His will. So if we pray the Word that is the solution we are praying God's will in our situation.” How do you explain the following? Romans 8:26-27 In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. 27And he who searches our hearts knows the mind of the Spirit, because the Spirit intercedes for the saints in accordance with God's will. Have a great day, CDBJ |
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7 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | Brendac | 115729 | ||
Hi CDBJ Now you are talking about intercessory prayer. This is where we plead the case of someone else. In Romans 8:26 PC Nelson who was a noted liguist said that the Greek actually implies "with groanings that cannot be uttered in articulate speech." These groanings come from your spirit (from within)but to be effective has to come through the lips. Wilford Reidt said : "There will always be the need for the Holy Spirit to interceed with groanings. We may KNOW the will of God but only the Holy Spirit knows how to effectively present the need. There are circumstances in which we are not sure of how to pray. We need the groaning of the Holy Spirit in intercession." So this is for when we don't know how to pray in whatever situation. It is also for when we have a burden for someone and in most cases we don't know why we have the burden for a specific person, but then we can pray as per Romans 26, 27 and you will find many times afterwards that that person was in a particularly difficult situation or a crisis situation or whatever and we have then been the vessel used to basically rescue them from the situation. Normally in our own lives when we are unsure how or what to pray it is because we are seeking God's will in our lives (prayer of consecration) as I said before, however, if the solution to our problem is in the Word then we must stand on the Word and pray the Word. I mean if we are looking for employment God's Word provides for it because His Word says that a man who does not support his family is worse than an infidel and His Word also says that a workman is worthy of His meat. So we know that it is His will that we work. However, God knows which job would be the perfect one for us, so we need to leave that up to Him. Have a great day too! Brenda |
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8 | who benefits most from prayer? | Bible general Archive 2 | CDBJ | 115781 | ||
Greetings Brenda, Your reference to, Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. You followed with this statement, “These groanings come from your spirit (from within)but to be effective has to come through the lips.” The English word groanings is from the dative case, masculine gender, plural of the Koine Greek word STENAGMOS. The Dative case carries the implication that it’s to our advantage that He does this for us. There is no direct indication of an audible noise or sound occurring. I attend a very large church that has close to 30 individuals that can’t speak a word. They use sign language throughout the services. Are you inferring that they are not going to be effective in their prayer life because of their personal dilemma and that the Lord discriminates against them because of their condition, not being able to make sounds through their lips? God knew from eternity past, because of his omniscience, every need that any of us would ever have and just because one can’t produce an audible prayer doesn’t hinder the power of God on our behalf one bit. I’m glad we have, Romans 8:27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. The word heart, or KARDIA in the Greek, is figurative for the thoughts or feelings. God knows what we need even before we ask. Hebrews 4:13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do. Hebrews 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. Remember the old saying, it’s the thought that counts, CDBJ |
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