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1 | Jesus know all things why marvelled? | NT general Archive 1 | Lionstrong | 63497 | ||
Technical is right, Emmaus! I think the problem we've (the church) made for ourselves is the use of the word "person," a word which comes down to us not from the Greek, but Latin (persona- mask) I don't think we know what we mean by it. How can one be fully human without being a human person? We have to know what we mean by person in order to deny personhood to Jesus' humanity. I'm not quibbling about the word person or its origin. I'm talking about its meaning. What does it mean to be a person? If man and person are synonymous, how can we say that Jesus was not a human person? The Second Person of the Trinity became fully man in order to represent fully redeemed man. Again, how can he be fully human (in order to represent us) without being a person? In the way we use the word person, maybe the doctrinal statement should be not two natures, but two persons, one hypostasis. Again, I don't want to quibble about words. What's more important is what we mean by what we say. Jesus is One Christ, fully God and fully man. But this is the subject of another Bible study under another thread. Peace, |
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2 | Jesus know all things why marvelled? | NT general Archive 1 | Emmaus | 63528 | ||
Lionstrong, "How can one be fully human without being a human person? We have to know what we mean by person in order to deny personhood to Jesus' humanity. I'm not quibbling about the word person or its origin. I'm talking about its meaning. What does it mean to be a person? If man and person are synonymous, how can we say that Jesus was not a human person? The Second Person of the Trinity became fully man in order to represent fully redeemed man. Again, how can he be fully human (in order to represent us) without being a person?" Jesus is fully human, having a fully human nature, but He is a pre-existing Divine Person, with a Divine nature. Could a human person save us? Or can that be done only by a Divine Person with a divine nature who has taken on our nature? If we ask who Jesus is, we have to say in the ultimate sense, He is God the Son. But is we ask what Jesus is, we can say He is a man, but we can also say He is divine. The definitions here are just as important as in a discussion of the Trinity. One What(God), Three Whos(Persons). With Jesus it is One Who (Person: God the Son), two whats(natures: human and divine). He represents us in His human nature. He is able to save us because of His Divine nature and Personhood. He became like us, so we could become like Him. But we will always be human persons elevated to be partakers of His Divine nature and He will always be a Divine Person who lowered Himself to partake of our human nature and in the process save us. But you are probably right, this is a subject for another thread and another time. Peace, Emmaus |
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