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1 | When did Yeshua know he was Messiah? | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 53242 | ||
Simchat Torah, I'll take a stab at this, although I suspect that your research has led you to something that you are holding back :-) The keys to this verse are perhaps in one of two fragments of the sentence. The first is "Didn't you know" -- his question to his mother. Perhaps Jesus is saying something like Have you forgotten about the Annunciation, about what Gabriel said to you? So why didn't you know where to look for me? .... And the second clue may be found in the expression "my Father's house." This is in contrast to Mary's reference to Joseph in v. 48 when she said, "Son, why have you done this to us? Your father and I have sought you anxiously." She said, YOUR father and I. He said, MY Father's house (or business). Such would seem to indicate that Jesus at so young an age had a clear consciousness of His identity and mission. Now bring on the big guns and give us the REAL explanation :-) --Hank | ||||||
2 | When did Yeshua know he was Messiah? | NT general Archive 1 | Simchat Torah | 53247 | ||
Shalom Hank; Of course I was holding something back :-). While your explanation of the passage is very good it is missing the key ingredient. The term "my father" is a messianic claim in itself. Too often we read a passage and explain it the best way we can, but without the proper context and resources, the actual meaning can never be found. Jews very rarely call God "my father" and when they do it is significant. The Jews will always use the term "our father" such as what Yeshua taught in the "Lord's prayer" - our father who is in heaven. The Jewish Sidur (prayer book) also uses the term "our father" extensively even to this very day. Long before the birth of Yeshua the Rabbis/Pharisees went through the entire Tenach/Old Testament looking for passages that are talking about the coming Messiah. The Rabbis took 2 Samuel 7:14, Psalms 2:7 and Psalms 89:26 and formulated the belief that when the messiah comes he will call God "my father" and God will call him "my son". Throughout the New Testament we see God calling Yeshua "my son" such as in Mat 3:17 and 17:5 and Yeshua calls God "my father" such as in Mat 17:5 and 10:32. Yeshua and his disciples were all Jews who were very familiar with Jewish customs, traditions and lifestyles. By understanding their culture, the New Testament can be opened up in new and exciting ways. When someone says that we only need the Bible to interpret itself, the richness and spirit of the writings are lost. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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3 | When did Yeshua know he was Messiah? | NT general Archive 1 | Hank | 53266 | ||
See, I told you so! I just knew you had some goodies that you were holding back :-) Very interesting insights, Simchat Torah. By the way, your user name: Torah I can understand, but what in the cat hair (an expression the upper-crust Arkansas landed gentry use a lot) -- what in the cat hair does Simchat mean? It's good to interact with you on the forum and welcome. --Hank | ||||||
4 | When did Yeshua know he was Messiah? | NT general Archive 1 | Simchat Torah | 53271 | ||
Shalom Hank; What kind of a debater would I be if I played all my cards at once :-). Well Mr. Arkansas (heavy emphasis on the final "s" :-) man of gentry, the Hebrew word simchat (pronounced siymkat) means joy, Joy of Torah. It is a holiday that comes at the end of the feast of sukkot (tabernacles) celebrating the Torah. It is great to be a part of the forum, a friend recently introduced me to studybibleforum and I have thouroughly enjoyed it. A great place to learn and interact with others who are searching for truth. Thank you very much for the welcome. Shalom Simchat Torah |
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