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1 | AGE OF ACCOUNTIBILITY | Bible general Archive 1 | Teria | 9138 | ||
Hi Tim, ok lets see if I am understanding you here... I think I agree in part with you. I agree that Christ dying on the cross was for everyone so no longer original sin can count against anyone. But once we ourself sin we need to except Christ in order for our own sins to be forgiven. We differ in when or maybe if someone has had the opportunity to accept or reject the gospel. The bible says that we are without excuse.Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse. Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. Rom 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. The bible tends to stay away from anything gray. It says everyone and it means everyone. There is no exception. If you have sinned than you need the blood of Christ to cover you. Or you will be condemned. How God accomplishes that with children I am not sure. He doesn't seem to give us that ansewer. If you have any children you know why the bible says we need to come to Christ as a little child. there are several reasons. But one is a child looks to us for there everything. all there needs and wants. and they are sure we can do anything. and until we come across something in there lives that we cant accomplish they believe that we cant fail. They dont know how we do it. All they know is we do it. thats how I see God I dont know how He does it all I just know He does it all. The difference is one day we will fail and the child will realize we are falible. So I dont know how he gives children and others that I see as impossible to make that choice, the choice but the bible says we all get that choice. But what I know about children and what I know about God leads me to believe that when a small child is given a choice between God and all that He is and eternity without Him they all would run to Him with open arms. Once anyone has sinned even what we as humans would call a little sin, we need Christ. And we all have to make that choice for ourselves. So unless you know of somewhere in the bible that states people are under grace once they themselves have sinned and that they dont need Christ, I will believe that Gods ways are above ours and He has it covered. But He has it covered in a way that the bible states. and if the bible doesnt state how He has it covered than it is something that is beyond us and I will have that faith like a child and just know that He can get the job done. I guess it is that where things are impossible to man they are possible to God. So if we are not able to preach the gospel to an infant and have it understand God is able. And just because we dont get to hear that choice being given or that choice being made doesnt mean that it wasnt done.God is not a liar. So if He say everyone that has sinned and all have sinned that that is what He means. And all need the blood of Christ no matter what the age or disability or the lack of someone not preaching to them. Look at Paul. Christ Himself preached to him on the road. That whole thing about Paul made me realize no one will be able to have an excuse. If there is no one that will preach the gospel to people He can come and do it Himself or have a donkey do it.:) I guess what I am trying to say is I dont believe that an infant or someone mentally disabled is not able to accept or reject Christ. Maybe we cant phathom that but it has to happen or God is a liar when He says everyone will be judged. And ALL have sinned. all it takes is one sin. children can sin very very young. and since we are born with the knowledge of good and evil no one can use the excuse of I didnt know that was sin. Anyways Tim let me know what you think. and if I am understanding you here or not. I feel like I know you but that must be that sister brother thing we got going on.:) Love your sister in Christ Teria |
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2 | AGE OF ACCOUNTIBILITY | Bible general Archive 1 | Morant61 | 9146 | ||
Greetings Teria! I do have kids! Boy do I have kids! I have four in fact! I think you are right on about the meaning of "everyone sins." My understanding of depravity is such that everyone, once they do get the opportunity to make a moral decision, will fail. Therefore, everyone, apart from Christ, will be lost. The only question concerns those who are unable to accept Christ. Here I differ from your perspective. I don't think that infants can make a decision, so they aren't quilty until they can. Once that happens, they need Christ. Thanks for the discussion! Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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