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1 | What "norms" can we disregard? | Bible general Archive 1 | CDBJ | 77746 | ||
Hi Hank, I think that a lot of what we try to convey on this forum is like talking to a dead person they can’t hear a thing that you say because they are dead. 1 Cor. 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. How far does God’s plan of salvation go with grace, will it overlook UNDIVIDED faith in Jesus and accepts a little self-righteousness from one trying to keep the law? I guess maybe grace is no more grace? CDBJ |
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2 | What "norms" can we disregard? | Bible general Archive 1 | disciplerami | 77794 | ||
Those who misinterpret the 1 Cor 2 passage (e.g. Calvinists) should be consistent and quit spouting Scripture to those who trust in, as you put it, "a little self-righteousness." What, we can't believe the God wants an obedient faith? Aren't you really saying that because we don't accept your point of view, that proves we are unspiritual? If Calvinist believe Holy Writ, being Truth, has no intrinsic power over a depraved, "dead person", why ever 'convey' another word to them and stick to preaching to the choir? I obviously don't believe as Calvinist do, but I also don't believe in self-righteousness. To even suggest it shows you do not understand our position. I believe in salvation by grace through an obedient faith (Romans 1:5:16:26). I've never known a person with my beliefs to suggest it takes a little "self righteousness" to get to heaven. Believe it, you don't understand what you are talking about. If you believe what you wrote to Hank, don't betray your thoughts by trying to convince me and the other "dead" with Scripture. It is you who believes it is powerless until God steps in and intervenes and enlightens the soul. I fail to see how we become "self-righteous" and spiritually dead because we insist that "immersion" is the Biblical norm that mustn't be disregarded. What if the Calvinist are the deceived ones? Just in case, I'll keep preaching God's word believing that Truth can trump error. "constantly bearing in mind your work of faith" (1 Thess 1:3); "to bring about the obedient of faith among all the Gentiles" (Romans 1:5); "But prove yourselves doers of the word, and not merely hearers who delude themselves" (Jas. 1:22); "You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone" (Jas. 2:24) Good day. |
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