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1 | Has anyone noticed? | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 53477 | ||
Hello 2nd Samuel 22 There seems to be a growing movement amongst believers to go back into the Law for their daily lives. They meet on Saturday, observe different feasts, use Hebrew names for different functions and people. They think there is something special about "getting back to our Hebrew roots." Never mind that they are Gentiles by birth. I don't know if this is the case with Simchat Torah, et al. BTW, there have been a few on this forum that did indeed try to convince us that we were required to use the Hebrew for God or Jesus. They didn't last very long on the forum. Steve |
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2 | Has anyone noticed? | Bible general Archive 1 | bubbatate | 53628 | ||
Dear Steve and II SA, The reason I just happened to pop into the forum recently is that I just got on line for the first time about three weeks ago.....being an ardent student of scripture....the first thing I did was search for a study group.....I found the study forum to be the best.....and since it is billed as "study BIBLE forum" and not "study Christian doctrine forum" I was hoping to be allowed to be included in the dialogue. If I ever say anything unscriptural please tell me to get lost.....which you pretty much already have. In response to Steve's comments: Being one who meets on Saturday…….I am simply, and happily, obeying the commandment from my Father (Ex 20:8)to do so. Who commanded Sunday? (chapter and verse please). Being one who observes “different feasts”……I am observing the feasts of the LORD (Lev 23)……as the LORD's feasts are different from yours....whose are you observing? (chapter and verse please). I use Hebrew names because they intrinsically mean something……”Yahoshua” means “Yah saved”….what does “Jesus” mean? I think there’s something special about getting back to our Hebrew roots because my role models are all Hebrews. Who are your gentile role models? #1 My ultimate role model, Y’shua the Messiah is still a Hebrew in the Revelation….i.e. post resurrection (the Lion of the Tribe of Judah, The Root of David….Rev 5:5) #2 My role models, the chosen apostles, were all Hebrews who would not have experienced the out pouring of the Holy Spirit had they not been observing Shavout,your “Pentecost”. (Acts 2:1). #3 My role model for what the congregation of believers (church) should be like are the first generation believers who were all zealous for the Torah Hebrews (Acts 21:20) or gentiles who chose to follow the LORD, and hang out with, a bunch of Hebrews (Acts 17:26). I am a gentile by birth and thank the LORD daily for His invitation for us gentile types to bind ourselves to the LORD and become one with His people Israel. (Isa 56). As for your comment, “BTW, there have been a few on this forum that did indeed try to convince us that we were required to use the Hebrew for God or Jesus.” I can’t convince anyone of anything…..that’s the Holy Spirit’s job….I’m not competing. As for “They didn't last very long on the forum.”……..I’m in for the long haul…….at least until it’s time to shake the dust off my flip flops. Shalom alechem........Bub |
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3 | Has anyone noticed? | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 53707 | ||
Hello Bub "Who commanded Sunday? (chapter and verse please)." Acts 20:7 (ESV) On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread... "[A]s the LORD's feasts are different from yours....whose are you observing? (chapter and verse please)." 1 Cor. 11:23-25 (ESV) For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, [24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me." [25] In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me." "[W]hat does 'Jesus' mean?" Je·sus -- A teacher and prophet whose life and teachings form the basis of Christianity. Christians believe Jesus to be Son of God and the Christ. [Middle English, from Late Latin Iesus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew yeshua, from yehoshua, Joshua.] "Who are your gentile role models?" #1 Lord Jesus Christ who fulfilled the Law on our behalf. Romans 8:3-4 (ESV) For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, [4] in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. #2 Paul, who jumped on Peter for causing Gentiles to live like Jews. Galatians 2:14 (ESV) But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, "If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?" #3 The church which is Christ's body. 1 Cor. 12:12-13 (ESV) For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. [13] For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body— Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit. -------------------------------- Acts 21:20 is speaking of Jews in Jerusalem who still retained ties to the Law. Gentiles were exempt. Acts 21:25 (ESV) But as for the Gentiles who have believed, we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality." Acts 17 is not Gentiles wanting to hang out with Jews, but Jews wanting to hang out with Gentiles. Paul was speaking to Greeks on the Areopagus. Steve |
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4 | Has anyone noticed? | Bible general Archive 1 | bubbatate | 53731 | ||
Hey again, Steve….. C’mon get real, hang up your tap shoes. Me………."Who commanded Sunday? (chapter and verse please)." You…….Acts 20:7 (ESV) On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread... Me…….This is a command? You will eradicate the 4th commandment on the basis of Acts 20:7? Me……."As the LORD's feasts are different from yours....whose are you observing? (chapter and verse please)." You……I Cor. 11:23-25 (ESV) For I received from the Lord what I also delivered to you, that the Lord Jesus on the night when he was betrayed took bread, [24] and when he had given thanks, he broke it, and said, "This is my body which is for you. Do this in remembrance of me." [25] In the same way also he took the cup, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood. Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me." Me……This is Passover, a feast of the LORD. I was pretty much looking for your justification for xmas and easter…….the holiest days on the Christian calendar so I’ve been told. Me……."What does 'Jesus' mean?" You……Je·sus -- A teacher and prophet whose life and teachings form the basis of Christianity. Christians believe Jesus to be Son of God and the Christ. [Middle English, from Late Latin Iesus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew yeshua, from yehoshua, Joshua.] Me……No, Steve, or should I say Stephano, or Esteban (what name did your mother give you….or doesn’t it matter?)……the question wasn’t “Who is the person, Jesus”….it was what does the word intrinsically mean? Do you know of any other historical figure who has had his name changed from culture to culture? (other than santa claus). Notice from your own references, the proper English translation is “Joshua”……..where did the word “Jesus” come from? Me…….."Who are your gentile role models?" You…….#1 Lord Jesus Christ who fulfilled the Law on our behalf. Me……..Let me rephrase the question……which of your role models are gentiles? All the ones you mention are Jewish. You…..Romans 8:3-4 Me……see Eze 36:26-27 You…….#2 Paul, who jumped on Peter for causing Gentiles to live like Jews. Me……..You don’t like Peter? Are his epistles then not credible? Wasn’t Peter led of the Spirit just like Paul? This causes a problem…..Isn’t this the same Paul who said, “You, then, why do you judge your brother?” (Ro 14:10). You……Galatians 2:14 Me…….I really can’t respond to this, not really knowing the details of the situation nor being privy to Peter’s answer. I’ll be totally honest….there’s not much in Galations that I do understand. You……#3 The church which is Christ's body. 1 Cor. 12:12-13 (ESV) For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. [13] For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body— Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit. Me……See Eze 36:26-27 -------------------------------- You……..Acts 21:20 is speaking of Jews in Jerusalem who still retained ties to the Law. Gentiles were exempt. Me………The subject at hand was not Jewish believers, but newly converted gentiles. If they were exempt, what was the point of mentioning Moses, synagogues and Sabbath? You……Acts 21:25 (ESV) But as for the Gentiles who have believed, we have sent a letter with our judgment that they should abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality." Me…….Are you saying that these are the all inclusive guidelines for all gentiles for all time? You…….Acts 17 is not Gentiles wanting to hang out with Jews, but Jews wanting to hang out with Gentiles. Paul was speaking to Greeks on the Areopagus. Me……..AC 17:1 “When they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a JEWISH SYNAGOGUE. [2] AS HIS CUSTOM WAS, PAUL WENT INTO THE SYNAGOGUE, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, [3] explaining and proving that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead. "This Jesus I am proclaiming to you is the Christ, " he said. [4] Some of the Jews were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, as did a large number of GOD-FEARING GREEKS and not a few prominent women.” In Areopagus he was hanging out with pagan gentiles, not converted gentiles…..not because they were cool guys, but trying to bring them to their senses. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb………..Bub |
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5 | Has anyone noticed? | Bible general Archive 1 | srbaegon | 53736 | ||
Hello Bub "This is a command? You will eradicate the 4th commandment on the basis of Acts 20:7?" No, it's not a command. It was their practice. They had no qualms about meeting on the first day of the week for this. "This is Passover, a feast of the LORD. I was pretty much looking for your justification for xmas and easter…….the holiest days on the Christian calendar so I’ve been told." It's not the Passover but the Lord's Supper. There's a difference. As for Xmas and Easter, I will not justify their existence. "[W]hat does [Jesus] intrinsically mean? By following the lexical history I provided, you can see it means "Yah saves." "Do you know of any other historical figure who has had his name changed from culture to culture? (other than santa claus)." Most of the non-English immigrants of this country before 1900 including my own family name. But you asked for prominent historical figures. John Calvin comes to mind. His given name is Jean Cauvin. "Notice from your own references, the proper English translation is 'Joshua'……..where did the word 'Jesus' come from?" I provided that--[Middle English, from Late Latin Iesus, from Greek Iesous, from Hebrew yeshua, from yehoshua, Joshua.] Steve |
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