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1 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 44794 | ||
Joe Thanks for your reply. I really don't find anything in what you said that I can say I absolutely disagree with. I just want to say that everything has a first cause, sin included. It is my belief that God is not the first cause of sin. Rather God created man with the foreknowledge that he would exercise his God given freedom of choice, and chose to disobey. God knew before He created man, that this is the way it would be. It didn't catch Him off-guard or by surprise. Nevertheless, God knowing what would come about still chose to create His beings. So I agree with you when you say He allows it to happen. To grasp this we need to accept the different aspects of God's will, His perfect will, verses His permissive will. I also agree that the unregenerate in their deadened state cannot please God. I believe, where we might part ways is that I also believe that God can work in the unbelievers heart wooing him, and drawing him, but that God's grace can be resisted. (see Acts 7:51). Here is a few reasons why I believe God's grace can be resisted: (1) If God is all-powerful, then He could save all persons. (2) If God is all-loving, then He would save all persons. If an all-powerful God can save all, but He will not save all, then God is not all-loving. For a God who is all-loving would save all, if He could save all. But the fault lies not with God, but rather with man who when ONCE God enlightens that individual as He does "every man that comes into the world (John 1:9), that man resists God's grace and does not receive the free gift of salvation. When that happens then God,in His justice will not allow that individual into heaven, but he will be cast into hell. Man is held accountable for his decisions. Those who resist God's grace are "without excuse" Rom. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: |
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2 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | congregationalist | 45074 | ||
Hello New Creature, you wrote this to Joe(I think): (1) If God is all-powerful, then He could save all persons. (2) If God is all-loving, then He would save all persons. If an all-powerful God can save all, but He will not save all, then God is not all-loving. For a God who is all-loving would save all, if He could save all. There are several logical problems with your argument here (for instance, the ‘if God is all-loving’ clause is not granted nor demonstrated at all, you simply smuggle in an ungranted premise into an argument and thus the argument is questionable, although I don’t think there’s time for me to pin point all the problems now) but at this point I only wish to ask this: if God is omnipotent and ‘all-loving’ (meaning willing to save all) then why all are not saved? If you say because some resist God’s will, I ask, is this resisting more powerful than God’s will? Can you please answer? Also, I don’t think it’s such a good idea to construct complex arguments where the premises are themselves arguments, the good idea, on the other hand, is to keep things simple ;-) |
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3 | How did sin originate | Bible general Archive 1 | New Creature | 45119 | ||
You asked "if God is omnipotent and ‘all-loving’ (meaning willing to save all) then why all are not saved?" Answer - God truly is omnipotent, and all loving see John 3:16. And 2 Pet. 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. The LORD's will is that none perish, and those who won't repent will eventually perish. But God doesn't coerce any one to repent, (Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:) You also asked: "If you say because some resist God’s will, I ask, is this resisting more powerful than God’s will?" God has willed,that once He enlightens a person,( see John 1:9) that person has then been enabled by God,to make a decision to either receive Christ or to not receive Christ. God's Love is not forced, but God persuades people with sufficient evidence, and conviction of their sins, at which point we either refuse or accept. If we refuse it is only because God permitted one to do so, not because anyone's will is more powerful than God's will. He permits us to choose, that way on judgement day, He can justly damn those who refused Him. Man is held accountable for their actions and decisions. God will not damn someone for their inability to hear and respond. But all are without excuse. If man is unable to respond, then will God damn them for their inability? I don't believe thats the way it is. Many do. I don't Rom. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: John 1:12 But as many as RECEIVED him, to them gave he power TO BECOME the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: |
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