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1 | Crusifiction of Christ | Bible general Archive 1 | Love Fountain | 40763 | ||
Dear ddrundle, The Cross and Crucifixion. This Is Appendix 162 From The Companion Bible. In the Greek New Testament two words are used for "the cross" on which the Lord was put to death. 1. The word stauros; which denotes an upright pole or stake, to which the crimminals were nailed for execution. 2. The xulon, which generally denotes a piece of a dead log of wood, or timber, for fuel or for any other purpose. Is is not like dendron, which is used of a living, or green tree, as in Matthew 21:8; Revelation 7:1, 3; 8:7; 9:4, etc. As this latter word xulon is used for the former stauros, it shows us that the meaning of each is exactly the same. The verb stauroõ means to drive stakes.1 Our English word "cross" is the translation of the Latin crux; but the Greek stauros no more means a crux than the word "stick" means a "crutch". Homer uses the word stauros of an ordinary pole or stake, or a single piece of timber.2 And this is the meaning and usage of the word throughout the Greek classics.3 It never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle, but always of one piece alone. Hence the use of the word xulon (No. 2, above) in connection with the manner of our Lord's death, and rendered "tree" in Acts 5:30; 10:39; 13:29. Galatians 3:13. 1 Peter 2:24. This is preserved in our old English name rood, or rod. See the Encycl. Brit., 11th (Camb.) ed., volume 7, page 505d. There is nothing in the Greek of the New Testament even to imply two pieces of timber. The letter chi, , the initial of the word Christ , was originally used for His Name; or . This was superseded by symbols and , and even the first of these had four equal arms. These crosses were used as symbols of the Babylonian sun-god, , and are first seen on a coin of Julius Cæsar, 100 - 44 B.C., and then on a coin struck by Cæsar's heir (Augustus), 20 B.C.4 On the coins of Constantine the most frequent symbol is ; but the same symbol is used without the surrounding circle, and with the four equal arms vertical and horizontal; and this was the symbol specially venerated as the "Solar Wheel". It should be stated that Constantine was a sun-god worshipper, and would not enter the "Church" till some quarter of a century after the legend of his having seen such a cross in the heavens (EUSEBIUS, Vit. Const. I. 37). The evidence is the same as to the pre-Christian (phallic) symbol in Asia, Africa, and Egypt, whether we consult Nineveh by Sir A. H. LAYARD (ii 213), or Manners and Customs of the Ancient Egyptians, by Sir J. GARDNER WILKINSON, iii. pages 24, 26, 43, 44, 46, 52, 82, 136. Dr. SCHLIEMANN gives the same evidence in his Ilios (1880), recording his discoveries on the site of prehistoric Troy. See pages 337, 350, 353, 521, 523. Dr. MAX OHNEFALSCH - RICHTER gives the same evidence from Cyprus; and these are "the oldest extant Phoenician inscriptions"; see his Kypros, the Bible, and Homer : Oriental Civilisation, Art, and Religion in Ancient Times, Plates XIX, XXV, XXVI, XXX, XXXI, XXXII, XL, LVIII, LXIX, etc. The Catacombs in Rome bear the same testimony : "Christ" is never represented there as "hanging on a cross", and the cross itself is only pourtrayed in a veiled and hesitating manner. In the Egyptian churches the cross was a pagan symbol of life, borrowed by the Christians, and interpreted in the pagan manner. See the Encycl. Brit., 11th (Camb.) ed., volume 14, page 273. In his Letter from Rome Dean Burgon says : "I question whether a cross occurs on any Christian monument of the first four centuries". Read the rest of this at www.therain.org. Bless you, Love Fountain |
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2 | Crusifiction of Christ | Bible general Archive 1 | Greg Martin | 41113 | ||
Question: How could they possibly nail both hands and also his feet to a stake? In order to do this the hands would have to be behind the stake, palm side up or above the head. In either case the intent of asphyxiation would not be possible. Try it. You'll prove it to yourself. | ||||||
3 | Crusifiction of Christ | Bible general Archive 1 | Robert Nicholson | 41120 | ||
I believe it is the one who suffered on the cross that we should focus on. Read Psalm 22 which provides graphic detail of death by crucifixtion. It helps us in a measure to understand what our saviour indured at the hands of sinful man and at the hands of a holy God as Christ was made sin for us. In Psalm 22:14 "I am poured out like water and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is melted like wax in the midst of my bowels. My strength is dried up like a postsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; thou hast brought me into the dust of death" Psalm 22:14-15 In v. 16 we read "...they pierced my hands and my feet" Yet when man had done his worst, the scene was clothed in darkness from the sixth to the nineth hour. It was during this time as the Lord Jesus bore our sins in his own body on the tree, that he cried that desolate cry as described in V1 "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" He was forsaken that we might not be forsaken for all eternity. God bless Robert |
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4 | Crusifiction of Christ | Bible general Archive 1 | Greg Martin | 41345 | ||
As opposed to the shape of the cross? You've got a good point if you're not one who likes to dig into details and trivial points much. Clearly it is not important what the shape of the cross was, but as a point of interest. I know some get mad and crinkle their nose at discussions that don't tackle earth shattering revelations in doctrine. But some like it, as do I. Important? No. Interesting? Yes. |
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5 | Crusifiction of Christ | Bible general Archive 1 | Robert Nicholson | 41384 | ||
Greg: I did not intend to belittle your interest in the cross. I agree that that the details and trival points are interesting. I am not "mad and crinkling my nose" at your discussion. Peace in his name Robert Nicholson |
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6 | Crusifiction of Christ | Bible general Archive 1 | Greg Martin | 41400 | ||
No offense taken, and I was not referring to you when I said some get mad and crinkle their nose. It's just a general observation I've noticed here. Some apparently think we can't discuss lighter points or engage in curiosity. That is not to accuse you, as I said, just a general observation. | ||||||