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1 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | kalos | 123919 | ||
AMPLIFIED John 5:24 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life. And he does not come into judgment [does not incur sentence of judgment, will not come under condemnation], but he has already passed over out of death into life. AMPLIFIED John 10:27-29 The sheep that are My own hear and are listening to My voice; and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never lose it or perish throughout the ages. [To all eternity they shall never by any means be destroyed.] And no one is able to snatch them out of My hand. My Father, Who has given them to Me, is greater and mightier than all [else]; and no one is able to snatch [them] out of the Father's hand. AMPLIFIED Romans 8:35 Who shall ever separate us from Christ's love? Shall suffering and affliction and tribulation? Or calamity and distress? Or persecution or hunger or destitution or peril or sword? AMPLIFIED Romans 8:38 For I am persuaded beyond doubt (am sure) that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities, nor things impending and threatening nor things to come, nor powers, AMPLIFIED Romans 8:39 Nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation will be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. AMPLIFIED Philippians 1:6 And I am convinced and sure of this very thing, that He Who began a good work in you will continue until the day of Jesus Christ [right up to the time of His return], developing [that good work] and perfecting and bringing it to full completion in you. AMPLIFIED 1 Peter 1:4-5 [Born anew] into an inheritance which is beyond the reach of change and decay [imperishable], unsullied and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, Who are being guarded (garrisoned) by God's power through [your] faith [till you fully inherit that final] salvation that is ready to be revealed [for you] in the last time. |
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2 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123921 | ||
Kalos: Does the Bible contradict itself? Though every man be found a liar, may God be found true! How does one reconcile this and other verses speaking of the need of endurance or to resist Satan's influence in order to be saved? I'll just cite two of dozens: "Don't grumble against each other, brothers, or you will be judged. The Judge is standing at the door!" (James 5:9)"Deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus." (1Cor 5:5) I always tell people: It's not the Bible the contradicts, but interpretation. Why do Paul, John, James, Jude and Peter write so much about the need to fight the fine fight and hold a good conscience if no risk of losing salvation? "AMPLIFIED John 5:24 I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life. And he does not come into judgment [does not incur sentence of judgment, will not come under condemnation], but he has already passed over out of death into life." DOESN'T THIS CLINGING, RELYING, TRUSTING, BELIEVING HAVE TO CONTINUE FOR THE JESUS STATEMENT TO REMAIN TRUE? People need to know the truth. |
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3 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | BradK | 123922 | ||
knucklehead, If I may interject here:-) Again, I don't wish to engage in theological ping-pong, so it's important for us to define terms and stick with context! Proof texting get's us nowhere. 2 questions for you my friend: 1. On what basis are we saved? 2. Is one ever "saved" in your understanding? I do not wish to engage in endless debate on this matter, so it would be important to stick with specific questions and provide specific answers rather than jumping all over the page. As you are new to the Forum, It would be nice to have some info on personal profile about yourself:-) Speaking the Truth in Love, BradK |
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4 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123924 | ||
Brad: Jesus' disciples asked him about the end times and how they could identify them. (Matt 24, Luke 21, Mark 13) Disciples alive at the fulfillment of these words would especially appreciate his counsel - "When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near." (Luke 21:28) This redemption is your deliverance or salvation. The counsel at Matt 24:9,13 applies to any alive to experience the last days, including the tribulation: "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. But he who stands firm to the end will be saved." (Of course, one's endurance may end at his death, before the end of the tribulation.) Those who trust in Jesus by following his counsel and enduring the onslaught to their faith and spiritual life that Satan and his accomplices will continue to heap upon them to the bitter end will receive a glorious reward. "God is not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him as you have helped his people and continue to help them." (Hebrews 6:10) No one that puts their trust in God and Jesus needs to fear. Be faithful in what's least, and we'll be faithful under the greatest tests. (Luke 16:10) That's my position, and I hope it will persuade some. |
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5 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | BradK | 123925 | ||
Good Luck! BradK |
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6 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123930 | ||
Brad: We don't believe in luck. (Isaiah 65:11) But I know we agree that as long as God is for us, no one and nothing can be against us. (Rom 8:31) "For it is time for judgment to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? And, if it is hard for the righteous TO BE saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?" So then, those who suffer according to God's will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and CONTINUE to do good."(1 Peter 4:17) Take care. |
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7 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | Morant61 | 123944 | ||
Greetings Knucklehead! You cite 1 Peter 4:17, but you seem to be drawing a false inference from it. 1 Pet. 4:17 does not say, 'Continue doing good so that you will be saved!' Rather, it speaks to those who are suffering for their faith and they are commanded to commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good'. Why? Because, it is God's will that they suffer for their faith and respond to it with good works that they might be witnesses to those persecuting them. Nothing in this passage speaks of doing good to earn salvation. The 'hard' doesn't refer to the difficulty of 'keeping' salvation, but to the difficulty of 'living' it out in a sinful world that hates us because of our faith. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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8 | Can salvation be lost? | Jude 1:5 | knucklehead | 123981 | ||
Tim: Rev 3:21,22: "To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches." All of Jesus' words to the seven congregations in Revelation chapters 2 and 3 are enlightening. He's not messing around. Concerned. |
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