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1 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | McGracer | 53782 | ||
Reasnerm, Yes, we are to leadly godly lives. And though it may look like the Law, it is grace. Paul wrote to Titus in 2:11,12, "For the GRACE of God has appeared, bringing salvation to all men, instructing us to deny ungodliness and worldly desires and to live sensibly, righteously and godly in the present age." It is God's GRACE, not the Law, that teaches us to "just say no." :) Just because the Christian is no longer under the Mosaic law does not leave Him without a moral compass. The Person of Jesus Christ is in us and as we abide in Him, He will morally take us to where the Law cannot. The Law says not to murder, Christ in us can love even our enemies. The Law says not to commit adultery. Christ in us can love our wives as He does the church. The Law says not to steal. Christ in us teaches us to give to those who have need. Some Christians hear that they are no longer under the Law and they think that they will go sin up a storm. While I don't deny that we CAN sin, I firmly believe the the Holy Spirit in us will grow us to where we WON'T WANT TO sin. We are now lead internally by God Himself instead of externally by a list of rules. Grace and peace to you. McGracer |
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2 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | kalos | 54465 | ||
I would not call the moral law contained in the 10 Commandments "a list of rules." Nor is it the "10 Suggestions." Romans 3:31 (Amplified) Do we then by [this] faith make the Law of no effect, overthrow it or make it a dead letter? Certainly not! On the contrary, we confirm and establish and uphold the Law. Romans 3: 31 (GOD'S WORD version) Are we abolishing Moses' Teachings by this faith? That's unthinkable! Rather, we are supporting Moses' Teachings. "The teaching that 'we are free from the Torah' is a product of hundreds of years of anti-Semitic theology and is in opposition to Scripture" ("Not Subject To The Law of God?" Part 8. www.yashanet.com/library/under8.htm) Matthew 5:17 "Don't ever think that I came to set aside Moses' Teachings or the Prophets. I didn't come to set them aside but to make them come true. Matt 19:17 Jesus said to him, "Why do you ask me about what is good? There is only one who is good. If you want to enter into life, obey the commandments." 1 John 2:3 We are sure that we know Christ if we obey his commandments. 2:4 The person who says, "I know him," but doesn't obey his commandments is a liar. The truth isn't in that person. 2:5 But whoever obeys what Christ says is the kind of person in whom God's love is perfected. That's how we know we are in Christ. 1 John 5:3 (Revised Standard Version) For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments (Greek: *entole* [Strong's #1785]: ethically used of the commandments in the Mosaic law). And his commandments (*entole*) are not burdensome. |
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3 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | bubbatate | 54519 | ||
Hi Kalos, I have aired exactly the same sentiments and have been railed against as a liar, heretic, judaizer and legalist and my forum membership has been threatened. I just happen to love the word of the LORD above doctrine and this is seen as heresy. Singing the Song of Moses and the Song of the Lamb.......Bub |
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4 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | Reformer Joe | 54534 | ||
The word of the LORD *is* doctrine, Bub. Doctrine means "teaching" or "instruction." As you have correctly pointed out, the word "Torah" can mean the same thing. The question, therefore, isn't between "the word of the LORD" and "doctrine," but rather which doctrine is indeed the word of the LORD. Here are the things that you have directly said or implied that is considered to be heresy by the Church of Jesus Christ: 1. That the New Testament (at least in its entirety) is not the word of God. 2. That Christ's death was not sufficient grounds for the forgiveness of our sins, since the temple sacrifices should have continued if the temple had not been destroyed. 3. The church is not following Jesus Christ, but is rather a thinly-veiled paganism which rejects the "truth." How such "paganism" would have met with such fierce opposition in a thoroughly pagan Roman Empire no one has yet to adequately explain to me. 4. I would assume that you would deny that Y'shua and the Holy Spirit are YHWH, so correct me if I am wrong there. 5. You have insisted, contrary to the council of Jerusalem (Acts 15), Paul's epistle to the Galatians, and the epistle to the Hebrews, that the entire Torah must be kept for one to be a follower of Jesus Christ. You STILL have failed to address my post citing Hebrews which answers questions you yourself raised, choosing to ignore them completely. 6. You have posted that Christianity is a false religion born of cowardice in the face of Roman persecution of Jews (when the destruction of the temple and the city itself was God's judgment upon Israel's rejection of her Messiah -- Matthew 24). What among the things above classifies you as someone meeting the guidelines that the owners of this Web site as someone qualified to post here? And from the perspective of biblical Christianity, which is the world view of this forum, you are indeed a heretic for holding any ONE of the above positions, just as you consider and have accused Christians to be heretics from the "true faith" (even if you have not used that exact word). So please do not try to spread your false beliefs on a Christian forum, criticizing the New Testament and Christianity itself, and then start crying about what a "victim" you are. Repent of your own failure to follow Torah because of your depraved nature, and embrace the only one who was righteous in His own right before God, and won that righteousness for all who trust in his once-for-all sacrifice. The word of the LORD? Here it is: 'What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin; as it is written, "THERE IS NONE RIGHTEOUS, NOT EVEN ONE; THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD; ALL HAVE TURNED ASIDE, TOGETHER THEY HAVE BECOME USELESS; THERE IS NONE WHO DOES GOOD, THERE IS NOT EVEN ONE." "THEIR THROAT IS AN OPEN GRAVE, WITH THEIR TONGUES THEY KEEP DECEIVING," "THE POISON OF ASPS IS UNDER THEIR LIPS"; "WHOSE MOUTH IS FULL OF CURSING AND BITTERNESS"; "THEIR FEET ARE SWIFT TO SHED BLOOD, DESTRUCTION AND MISERY ARE IN THEIR PATHS, AND THE PATH OF PEACE THEY HAVE NOT KNOWN." "THERE IS NO FEAR OF GOD BEFORE THEIR EYES." 'Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. 'But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all those who believe; for there is no distinction; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified as a gift by His grace through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus; whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. 'This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed; for the demonstration, I say, of His righteousness at the present time, so that He would be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. 'Where then is boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? Of works? No, but by a law of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 'Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.' --Romans 3:9-31 Y'shua is THE Lamb of God who TAKES AWAY the sins of the world. He is the Passover Lamb. Embrace him by faith and escape the wrath of YHWH to come. --Joe! |
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5 | What commandments to keep? | 1 John 2:4 | BradK | 54538 | ||
Dear Joe, Great post! I think you're right on, brother. God Bless. Yours In Christ, Bradk |
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