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1 | Where do I go from here? | 2 Pet 3:4 | Morant61 | 51930 | ||
Greetings Treadway! The Greek literally says, "Wisdom is here: He who has understanding let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is a number of man, and his number is six hundred sixty six." Whether calculate here means to assign numberical values and add them is questionable! It simply doesn't give us enough information. Further, as I demonstrated, 'Nero' only works with a lot of manipulation, even if summing is assummed. To take this verse though to imply that 'Nero' is the Beast and that therefore Christ was supposed to return in the first century is not warranted! The best approach I have read seems to be that of the Bible Knowledge Commentary. It says of this verse and the number: " Literature from the early church fathers, however, reveals the same confusion and variety of meanings that exist today, so probably it is best to leave this puzzle unsolved. Probably the safest conclusion is that of Thomas F. Torrance, “This evil trinity 666 apes the Holy Trinity 777, but always falls short and fails” (The Apocalypse Today, p. 86)." Who knows? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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2 | Where do I go from here? | 2 Pet 3:4 | Treadway | 51934 | ||
Hello Tim: You write: "..who knows" concerning 666. True. But if true, that it was supposed to be Nero, then it does fit snugly into my theme. It's certainly not the end-all, but a part of a definite whole. Does it make sense? Maybe. Especially since numerical values were assigned, and some have deduced it to be Nero. Then take that with the reality of the "times" of Rev. and then compare the "soon" emphasis with the preceding NT. A case can be made. Does it sway your mind's jury? That's up to you.... Treadway |
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3 | Where do I go from here? | 2 Pet 3:4 | Morant61 | 51937 | ||
Greetings Treadway! Does it sway my mind's jury? Honestly, not in the slightest (because of the 3 points I listed above). It's like say that 'Nero' is the answer if you spell in French, drop the last three letters, combine the English term for 'ruler' and lo and behold - it all adds up to 616 - which isn't even the correct reading of the Greek to begin with! ;-) Do you see my problem? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Where do I go from here? | 2 Pet 3:4 | Treadway | 51941 | ||
Hello Tim: You say: Do you see my problem? ---------------------------------------- Sure. After a "summation", it is always in the hands (minds) of the individual jury members. But I do wonder: what if "Nero" and 666 is true? How would that change perspectives? Would that destroy the Rapture industry, just for one of many changes.....but ah, that's a whole new avenue to travel....certainly no energy or time for that.... :) Treadway |
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