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1 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139464 | ||
Hi CDBJ, So your point is? Syntax: 1 [Now rare] orderly or systematic arrangement 2 Gram., the arrangement of and relationships among words, phrases, and clauses forming sentences; sentence structure 4 Logic, syntactics as applied to language in the abstract with no meaning attached either to the symbols or to the expressions constructed from these symbols. 1) I would see a connection between the living (s)Stone of 1 Peter 2:4 with the precious (v)Value to us who believe (verse 7). 1 Peter 2:7, NKJ, "Therefore, to you who believe, He is precious;..." 2) Can we, too, stumble because we are disobedient to the word? (verse 8). Or does it keep us from growing [up] in regards to salvation? (verse 2). From the heart, Ray |
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2 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | CDBJ | 139536 | ||
Hi Ray, With out trying to second guess what the Lord wanted in this situation, he might be leaving the use of the case up to the work of the Holy Spirit; that’s why the Koine Greek didn’t show either case and neither did they use diacritical marks, which is the sign of a weak language as well. Believers, by the teaching of the Holy Spirit, automatically know what and who the word lithos, in the original Greek, was in reference to. As a result the use of either case doesn’t matter, as it also didn’t in the Greek, and I am not going to get all bent out of shape over it. That’s what I think and if you don’t agree that fine too, it’s OK. I’m more concerned about the poor lost souls that don’t have anything of the written Word of God in their possession, be it a good or bad translation, many have nothing!!!!! Have a great day, CDBJ |
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3 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139608 | ||
Hi CDBJ, O.K. Suppose we not look at lower or upper case "stone". We won't consider whether Jesus is a man or a Man. We won't consider whether or not the NWT is correct with saying that the Word was a god. Koine Greek didn't show lower or upper case distinction so we don't need to either. Is that right? Is that good thinking? We know in this passage in 1 Peter that the "stone" is Jesus. But to the unbeliever it , Jesus, is a stone of stumbling, a rock of offense. O.K. let's not look at the capitalization; but let's consider verse 6 and decide if the translation should be "it" or "Him". What do you think; should it not be Him rather than it? And when one does consider capitalization, should it not be Him rather than him? We come to Him as chosen and precious in the sight of God. The Scriptures tell us that "they took offense at Him"/. They said, "Where did this man (NASB) Man (NKJ) get this wisdom, and these miraculous powers?" And they took offense at this prophet or Prophet. See Matthew 13:57 and Mark 6:3. But we as believers are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's/ own possession. 1 Peter 2:9 This precious honor, then, is for you who believe. 1 Peter 2:7. From the heart, Ray P.S. I like the way you included the word "written" in speaking of "the written Word of God". That is a good way to distinguish between the word of God, the Scriptures, and the "Word" of John 1:1. |
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4 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | CDBJ | 139609 | ||
Well Ray, since I’m not writing a new translation of the Bible and I don’t throw any weight around in Washington anymore, you are beating a dead horse. You are casting in a pond that doesn’t have any fish in it if you catch my drift. You would be better off talking to King James if he will answer your calls! CDBJ |
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5 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | Ray | 139648 | ||
Hi CDBJ, I am not writing a new translation of the Bible, either; and I don't carry much weight around anywhere. I am trying to do my part in "interpretting" the Bible correctly or more accurately. So for 1 Peter 2:6 as written above in the all caps quote of a scripture, I see two pronouns of Deity. 1) **"I lay in Zion a choice stone" and 2) "And he who believes in *Him will not be disappointed". I would compare/contrast it to John 14:1, "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in **God, believe also in *Me." If the Holy Spirit teaches us to authomatically know who this stone is, then we (you and I) should believe in "Him". So for verse 7 I would go with the NASB rather than the NKJ where the pronoun "He is precious" is not in the Greek. I believe that a perfect interpretation is possible and we should be working on it individually as the Holy Spirit indeed leads us. The translators should be working on a perfect "interpretation" as well, for I believe that it will come. On the other hand, I do not want to beat a dead horse. You answered my thread here, not the other way around. If you don't want to discuss things further that is all right with me; I know that you believe in Him even though you might not always capitalize the pronoun. From the heart, Ray |
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6 | Stone or stone for 1 Peter 2:4? | 1 Pet 2:6 | CDBJ | 139652 | ||
Hi Ray, There isn’t a capital letter large enough to cover the respect and glory that is needed with regards to God The Father and His Son, my Lord Jesus Christ!!! These post are falling in along the lines of those the say that some have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior but they haven’t made Him the Lord of their lives yet. We can’t make Jesus Lord of anything, He is what He is and there is nothing that I, or anyone else, can do that is going to change it. Those poor people are living with delusions of grandeur, if they think God the Son isn’t the Lord of their puny miserable life! It’s a good thing that God has a great sense of humor or we would all go home the minute after we trust in Jesus for our salvation! John 10:10 (B) I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly. Who is making Jesus the Lord of their life in this next verse? Hebrews 12:6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. I appreciate your gallant effort, but I personally believe that there are much bigger fish to fry, CDBJ John 4:35 Say not ye, There are yet four months, and then cometh harvest? behold, I say unto you, Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest. |
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