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1 | did Jesus die for our sins or sickness | 1 Pet 2:24 | atdcross | 164011 | ||
Hi Mark I disagree that my position “would necessitate that we would all be completely, permanently healed and healthy from the moment we are born again” because: (a) we are not totally released from the possibility of committing sinful acts or engaging in sinful thoughts and desires; (b) we are not “completely and permanently spiritually alive”; (c) Jesus’ death did not yet fully and automatically do away with demonic rule and activity (Eph 2:2; 1 Jn 5:19). It seems to me that if Jesus’ Messianic activity “does not set a standard”, then (a) one could legitimately argue that Jesus’ moral character as holy does not set a standard because “it was before the cross”; (b) it is at odds with Jesus’ command to “Go into all the world” and, among other things equally important, “cast out demons” and “lay hands on the sick” (Mark 16:15ff; cf. Jam 5:14; Matt 10:8; Luke 9:2; 1 Cor 12:9). There are other reasons why your statement seems to be erred but I only have time to submit two. Even Jesus went without experiencing hunger; his fridge was not always filled but God did sustain him physically. In any case, I do not understand what God’s material provision has to do with healing. It is one thing to be hungry and another thing to be sick. As far as Lazarus and the blind man, there was no godly purpose for their illness but there was a godly purpose in Jesus healing them. From my perspective, the related texts show that illness has no Godly purpose and that is why God desires to heal. Healing has a godly purpose. If you get sick God does not have to say, “Oops!” It is not at all his fault that you got sick. We are predestined to be made into the image of Christ. It does not say we are predestined to be sick. My perspective upon what we learn from Job is different. However, because we are told to remember Job and emulate his perseverance in suffering, does not mean everyone Christian (or the majority) is sick because their integrity is directly challenged by Satan; not unless he can be described as a man who is “blameless, upright, fearing God, and turning away from evil” and “there is no one like him on the earth” (Job 1”1,8). I disagree that God desires us to be sick because sickness serves no purpose (unless it is within the context of judgment); that’s why He desires to heal. |
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2 | did Jesus die for our sins or sickness | 1 Pet 2:24 | CDBJ | 164014 | ||
You said the following, “Even Jesus went without experiencing hunger;” Who is right, you or, Matthew 4:2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred. As for sickness, or what ever tag you would like to put on it, the reason we get sick is because we are still at home in these bodies of death and sin is still in the world and we are still subject to the results of sin while residing in these bodies. Romans 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? None of us will have a perfect bill of health until we are separated from these bodies of corruption. How many of the people, maintaining the same prospective that you are trying convince this forum of, celebrated their 200th birthday this year and are a picture of health? That’s what I thought, CDBJ |
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3 | did Jesus die for our sins or sickness | 1 Pet 2:24 | atdcross | 164015 | ||
CDBJ, Typographical error. I meant to say, even Jesus experienced hunger. I ain't perfected perfection, yet... |
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