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1 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82546 | ||
Graceful As Ed said, there were many at the pool... and only one was healed, but I do not agree with his conclusion that the reason only one was healed was because it was not God's will to heal the others. But rather that man's lack of faith to receive healing because of his opposing belief that that it is not God's will to heal everyone. Now they had enough faith to be there and wait for the angel to stir the water but they didn't have enough faith to turn to Jesus right after he healed a man in their sight. Sure! I also did not give an explanation as to why they all weren't healed I simply said all were present and the apparently all weren't healed. God had another plan. God doesn't always heal when we think he should was the point I was making. "scripture does not record a single case where Jesus crefused to heal anyone who asked Him." I think you need to read Matthew 15:22-28 Jesus did refuse but the persistance of the woman made Him change his mind. Also David prayed for his son and God did not heal him. Jesus also did not heal Lazarus but allowed him to die to show God might. God does what glorifies Him the most and serves His purpose while working all things to our good. The Bible says nothing about the servants faith in the story of the Centurian and Jesus healed the servant. The father of the demonic son said he lacked the faith but asked for it and Jesus healed the son and if the son was demonic he couldn't have had faith for healing so Jesus worked in face of a lack of faith. See Graceful your hard fast rules don't always hold, maybe they aren't so cut and dried as you think. EdB |
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2 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | gracefull | 82550 | ||
"Now they had enough faith to be there and wait for the angel to stir the water but they didn't have enough faith to turn to Jesus right after he healed a man in their sight. Sure!" Why would it surprise you that their faith would be in something other than Jesus? "I also did not give an explanation as to why they all weren't healed I simply said all were present and the apparently all weren't healed. God had another plan. God doesn't always heal when we think he should was the point I was making." I apologize for my incorrect observation of your point. But I do believe when faith and the Word join, God's healing wil take place. I think you need to read Matthew 15:22-28 Jesus did refuse but the persistance of the woman made Him change his mind. Also David prayed for his son and God did not heal him. Jesus also did not heal Lazarus but allowed him to die to show God might. God does what glorifies Him the most and serves His purpose while working all things to our good. Interesting points...Jesus had not purchased healing through the atonement when David's child died. Also David's child was conceived in sin and could not be the heir of the promise. The woman of Canaan's child was 'grievously vexed with a demon'. And even if you wanted to view this as healing...Do you honestly believe Jesus 'refused' in the sense of the word you use here? Jesus knew she would persist and no doubt in His wisdom..provoked her to press Him. Jesus said to the disciples 'this sickness is not unto death...but that the Father might be glorified'. However, you have a point here. "The Bible says nothing about the servants faith in the story of the Centurian and Jesus healed the servant. The father of the demonic son said he lacked the faith but asked for it and Jesus healed the son and if the son was demonic he couldn't have had faith for healing so Jesus worked in face of a lack of faith." Read again.. faith received. the Centurion had faith for his servant. The demonic son's dad said "I beieve, help thou my unbelief". This speaks of limited faith. Apparently enough. Jesus said 'go' and he went. Still faith. God bless |
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3 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82553 | ||
Graceful "But I do believe when faith and the Word join, God's healing will take place." Think about this statement don't you see the problem with it? "Do you honestly believe Jesus 'refused' in the sense of the word you use here?" Yes Jesus refused! That is what the word says. Had the woman walked away I believe that would be the end of the story, however praise the Lord she persisted. "Also David's child was conceived in sin and could not be the heir of the promise." I think that was a distasteful remark. Besides Perez was in your “words conceived in sin,” Tamar tricked her father in law Judah into getting her pregnant and he is part of the line of Jesus Matt 1:3. "The Bible says nothing about the servants faith in the story of the Centurian and Jesus healed the servant. The father of the demonic son said he lacked the faith but asked for it and Jesus healed the son and if the son was demonic he couldn't have had faith for healing so Jesus worked in face of a lack of faith." Your right, but are you telling me of all the people at the pool Bethesda none had any relatives or friends or servants or master that believed in Jesus and they weren’t praying for them to be healed? I find that unlikely. If the just the faith of others can heal people as you claim in the case of the Centurion, why don’t you clean out the hospitals of this country? I mean put the doctors out of work. Surely you have as much faith as demonic son’s dad had. See the hard fast rules aren’t always so hard and fast. EdB |
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4 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | gracefull | 82562 | ||
"I think that was a distasteful remark." Distasteful? What politically correct or tasteful term would you use? She was married to another, not David. "Besides Perez was in your “words conceived in sin,”Tamar tricked her father in law Judah into getting her pregnant and he is part of the line of Jesus Matt 1:3." This is not the same. Tamar's husband was dead and so was Judah's wife. Although this was not what we in our society would consider acceptable, she was not out of order. She sought seed from her dead husband's bloodline. In the case of David, Bathsheba was married to another man, whom David murdered I might add. "Your right, but are you telling me of all the people at the pool Bethesda none had any relatives or friends or servants or master that believed in Jesus and they weren’t praying for them to be healed? I find that unlikely." Since faith is how we receive, I supose not. Why would you find this unlikely? Isn't there a scripture that tells us hell is enlarged daily? Untold billions have rejected Christ's salvation. I do not find it unlikely. But we have moved into speculation anyway. "If the just the faith of others can heal people as you claim in the case of the Centurion, why don’t you clean out the hospitals of this country? I mean put the doctors out of work. Surely you have as much faith as demonic son’s dad had." Ed, I won't tell you what in scripture this statement reminds me of...Although I understand your reasoning here, I will not compare my faith or anyone else's as a guage to judge the truth of the Word. I am leaving for the day. Have a blessed weekend, my brother. God bless |
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5 | How about Deut33:7? | 1 Pet 2:24 | EdB | 82573 | ||
Graceful "I think that was a distasteful remark." Distasteful? What politically correct or tasteful term would you use? She was married to another, not David. I read this as a slur on the child, since we are all born with a sin nature our conception means little, in fact Psalmist uses says we are all conceived in sin.. Perez was born conceived outside of wedlock, in basically what is called an abomination later in the scriptures. As for the pool of Bethseda your right it is speculation, but you must admit Jesus only healed the one not everyone, and I can’t imagine someone seeing this didn’t holler, “do me too!” Ed, I won't tell you what in scripture this statement reminds me of...Although I understand your reasoning here, I will not compare my faith or anyone else's as a gauge to judge the truth of the Word. I’m not asking you to compare your faith. You said the faith of the centurion was what got the servant healed. Reread the story. The centurion had faith in the power and authority of Jesus. Jesus healed in demonstration of the authority and power, He was visibly demonstrating He was God. If it was just faith of the centurion which God honored then we have to assume everyone who’s had a loved one died after they prayed for them didn’t have enough faith. If that be the case then the problem is with every Christian who ever had a love one die. God has nothing to do with it, other than healing them, it is our faith that determines if someone lives or dies. Graceful I won’t tell you what in scripture your statements reminds me of… Have a Jesus filled day? EdB |
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