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1 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | Lifer1J511 | 3609 | ||
Thanks again for your response. I appreciate it. I'm studying it further. In the meantime, I'm going to reask the question so that it will come back up in the question queue and others will (hopefully) answer. OK, all you NASB Greek scholars out there (you know who you are), who are these 'partakers of the Holy Spirit that fall from grace and can't be brought back to repentance? | ||||||
2 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | zach† | 34762 | ||
Lifer; I found these comments from Calvinist Charles Spurgeon concerning who these are that are mentioned in Heb. 6:4-6. Spurgeon on Heb. 6:4-6 (Those mentioned in Heb. 6:4-6 are true and real Christian's) "We come to this passage (Hebrews 6:4-6) ourselves with the intention to read it with the simplicity of a child, and whatever we find therein to state it; and if It may not seem to agree with something we have hitherto held, we are prepared to cast away every doctrine of our own, rather than one passage of scripture." (Charles Haddon Spurgeon) "a child reading this passage, would say, that the persons intended by it must be Christians. If the Holy Spirit intended to describe Christians, I do not see that he could have used more explicit terms than there are here." "How can a man be said to be enlightened, and to taste of the heavenly gift, and to be made partaker of the Holy Ghost, without being a child of God?" "I think that I shall be able to show that none but true believers are here described." "First, they are spoken of as having been once enlightened, This refers to the enlightening influence of God's Spirit .... I cannot consider a man truly enlightened unless he is a child of God." "the next thing that God grants to us is a taste of the heavenly gift, by which we understand, the heavenly gift of salvation." "we cannot think that the Holy Spirit would describe an unregenerate man as having been enlightened, and as having tasted of the heavenly gift, No, my brethren, If I have tasted of the heavenly gift, I am one of his." "no man can be a partaker of the Holy Ghost, and yet be unregenerate." 'further..... they have tasted the good word of God .... I say again, if these people be not believers-who are?" "They had received the powers of the world to come.... powers with which the Holy Ghost endows a Christian." "These, we say, whatever may be the meaning of the text, must have been, beyond a doubt, none other than true and real Christians" (all the4 above quote taken from Spurgeon. After having said all that Spurgeon still maintained his Calvinist position of "Perseverance of the Saints" How he could I don't know, seems amazing that he still could. Must have been something in those cigars he smoked In Christ zach† |
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3 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | Reformer Joe | 34803 | ||
Perhaps if you could cite some of his argument about WHY he still held to perseverance of the saints, we could all examine what (besides his cigers) which led him to that conclusion. You are only giving us half the story, after all. --Joe! |
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4 | Fallen 'Partakers of the Holy Spirit?' | Heb 6:6 | zach† | 34827 | ||
Joe; I will try to relocate the entire message from which I collected these quoutes, and once I find them, I will attach them here zach† |
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