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1 | Allocation or possession? | Heb 11:1 | orthodoxy | 6209 | ||
I was trying to dispel the common illustration about faith that equates it with assuming that the chair will hold me when I sit on it, or that the car will work when I drive it. That is most decidedly not faith. The popular argument goes something like: You put faith in the chair when you sit, so put your faith in God and be saved. The problem is not only is this not real faith, but we possess no saving faith of our own. And I do believe that some believers are given more faith than others. Certainly all are given "enough" to be saved. But some people have a much more difficult time trusting God than others. |
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2 | Allocation or possession? | Heb 11:1 | charis | 6267 | ||
Dear orthodoxy, I agree with the point you made about the difference between physical faith (the chair, the car) and saving faith, though which the grace of the Lord is poured out. In fact, friend, I have no 'buts' or 'howevers' at all :-) I also agree that every believer has 'enough' faith to be saved. It would seem that since the 'initial' sin is the same for all (Adam) the 'amount' necessary for salvation is exactly the same. (Not by-the-pound, or depending on the amount of pre-salvation sins) After this gift of saving faith is given, is there a subsequent gift of 'faith to live by?' It would seem that varying 'amounts' of faith are manifest (or not manifest) in the lives of God's people. Also, we have the Holy Spirit gift of faith in I Corinthians 12:9, that seems separate from saving faith. In II Thessalonians 1:3 we have, "...because your faith is greatly enlarged..." indicating that the 'amount' of faith can change. Thanks for hearing me out. In Christ Jesus, charis |
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