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1 | Titus 3:5 and washing of regeneration | Titus 3:5 | Charles_P | 132136 | ||
Hello, I have a couple of questions about the above verse: What is "the washing of regeneration"? What is "renewing by the Holy Spirit"? Thanks! Charles |
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2 | Titus 3:5 and washing of regeneration | Titus 3:5 | Emmaus | 132138 | ||
Charles, Some, including me, hold that Titus 3:5 is basically the same as John 3:5 and refers to Baptism. Emmaus |
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3 | baptism regenerate? | Titus 3:5 | Charles_P | 132265 | ||
Thanks for your reply. Can baptism regenerate? | ||||||
4 | baptism regenerate? | Titus 3:5 | Country Girl | 132270 | ||
Baptism is just the final step to actually get us into the family of God much like the ritual of circumcism did for those wishing to become part of the Israelite family in the OT. Regeneration is an ongoing process. It's God's refining process by which he gets mankind to an acceptable level of righteousness or spiritual condition so we can enter Heaven. Rom 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. 3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 4For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function, 5so we, being many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another. 6Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, let us use them: if prophecy, let us prophesy in proportion to our faith; 7or ministry, let us use it in our ministering; he who teaches, in teaching; 8he who exhorts, in exhortation; he who gives, with liberality; he who leads, with diligence; he who shows mercy, with cheerfulness. Also from Apostle John, Rev 3:18 I counsel you to buy from Me gold refined in the fire, that you may be rich; and white garments, that you may be clothed, that the shame of your nakedness may not be revealed; and anoint your eyes with eye salve, that you may see. We could talk about perfecting your "armor of God" or "adding the fruits of the Spirit." There are many ways God expects us to "work out our salvation." All of these are aspects of Christianity God wants to see perfected in us as much as possible. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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5 | baptism regenerate? | Titus 3:5 | srbaegon | 132273 | ||
Hello Country Girl, I think you are confusing regeneration (justification) with sanctification. We are counted righteous when we believe. Gen 15:6 (ESV) (See Rom 4:3) And [Abram] believed the Lord, and he counted it to him as righteousness. We can't get any more righteous from that point. We--with God's working in and through us--do work on our spiritual lives. Phil 2:12-13 (ESV) Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, [13] for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure. The verses you quoted are also part of the sanctification process. Steve |
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6 | baptism regenerate? | Titus 3:5 | Country Girl | 132280 | ||
Since there's only two scriptures where this word is used, there's not a whole lot of guidance as to what exactly is meant by its use. Matt 19:28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Titus 3:5 He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit, Since, it's clear that we have to "use the Bible as Its best own Commentary," I see nothing wrong with the use of "transforming" as cited in Romans or "refining" as cited in Revelation. It does seem pretty clear from all the Bible that God does want us, His creation to come back to Him in Heaven but sin and our human, fleshly bodies prevent us from being able to do that. Now since, the devil is a spirit and believes in God, it's also clear we must do more than simply attain a spiritual status and believe in God ourselves. So once again, I say it's God's influence in our lives as His children that saves us when we actually act on our faith in Him and obey His commands. We study His Word and pray for His guidance and eventually we should see ourselves coming closer and closer to that which we see and study in God's Word. Notice Paul's words in 2 Cor 3:12 Therefore, since we have such hope, we use great boldness of speech-- 13unlike Moses, who put a veil over his face so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the end of what was passing away. 14But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord. And James' words in Ja 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. 23For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; 24for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. 25But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. So we should use God's Word to measure our lives and strive to come closer to that absolute standard of Perfection as Modeled by our Lord. Now of course, each of us is responsible for our own soul's condition and the relationship we establish with God our Father. AND since we are very definitely our brother's/sister's keeper, yes we are to love them enough to do our fruit inspecting and at least ask how they're doing in their walk with God. We SHOULD be willing to confess our faults, our weaknesses to one another, confide and pray for one another as the scriptures encourages us to do. In this way, we gain a closer fellowship with our family members AND a closer relationship with God. The overall net effect is that we're all transformed on a daily basis into better and more mature christians. Hopefully, we'll all be motivated to take as many as possible with us, hand in hand during our journey to Heaven. Do you not agree? I hope so. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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7 | baptism regenerate? | Titus 3:5 | srbaegon | 132318 | ||
Hello Country Girl, I also think the Bible is its own best commentary. However, I start at the immediate context of the verses in question. Matt 19:28-30 is speaking of the future kingdom of God on earth. There will be a regeneration of the world at that time. This hasn't been realized yet. Titus 3:4-7 speaks of our personal salvation as it has already occurred. So, although the same word is used in both, the thing being regenerated and the time of regeneration are both different. It's not a direct comparison. I agree with the balance of your post concerning growth to maturity in Christ. Steve |
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8 | baptism regenerate? | Titus 3:5 | Country Girl | 132340 | ||
I agree with you, it's always best to gather from the verse under discussion what is the immediate context so for that purpose, I quote: Matt 19:23 And Jesus said to His disciples, "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Matt 19:24 "Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." Matt 19:25 When the disciples heard this, they were very astonished and said, "Then who can be saved?" Matt 19:26 And looking at them Jesus said to them, "With people this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." Matt 19:27 Then Peter said to Him, "Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?" Matt 19:28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Matt 19:29 "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or farms for My name's sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life. Matt 19:30 "But many who are first will be last; and the last, first." So we see that Christ made this statement immediately after his encounter with the rich young ruler who refused to give up his possessions, take up his cross and follow Jesus. So once again, this regeneration is a transition process. God and His Son want to see us, all of us graduate from this physical world to a spiritual world, come and join Him in Heaven but as I've mentioned before, we MUST allow God to choose the timing. Again, I don't see anything truly different in this scenario. Basically it boils down to us in our present condition without God, after we reach the age of accountability and before we become a christian...we've got no hope. Then we establish a relationship with Him as our Father through His Son and ONLY through Him. Everything else is on God's part to get us there in Heaven through our belief and faith in His Grace and Forgiveness. All we got to do is obey His commands which include "being faithful till death" per Rev 2:10 and being fruitful in our works of faith as per James 2. How could it be any clearer? Now, I must admit we CANNOT boast or think we can earn our way to Heaven. That too is very clear from the scriptures but we do have a job to do: be a vessel for God showing His Light throughout our lives so that others will be influenced to also establish a similar relationship to God. Now, can we agree on all the above? I hope so. Blessings to you. Country Girl |
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9 | baptism regenerate? | Titus 3:5 | srbaegon | 132364 | ||
Hello Country Girl, Not all. I agree with the circumstances you mentioned, but you forgot to take into account that the Lord changed the subject to speak of the future kingdom. The word "regeneration" in this case has nothing to do with personal salvation. Again, regeneration is not a process, sanctification is. Steve |
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