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1 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | Hank | 31819 | ||
It never ceases to amaze. When the uninformed dissenters wax skeptical of the truth of Scripture, they invariably cite the "two" accounts of creation and Noah's flood, about neither of which are they likely to be able to produce an ounce of proof to justify their ton of doubt. I have seen on this very forum page after page of exegesis -- an adultered application of the true meaning of the word -- that presumed to explain the origin of the universe and to tell us exactly and precisely how God went about it. By and large, these revelations, in addition to exposing the ignorance of the revelators, were as helpful to our readers as a fountain pen is to a pig. --Hank | ||||||
2 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | JMHO | 31879 | ||
Why the ungraceful answer? A dissenter from what??? Is the correct position on the literalness spectrum God's litmus test? Is it even in the top 40??? Many Bible stories ARE hard to swallow for a new student of the bible like me. I still can't get over that talking donkey or Jacob wrasslin with God. I laugh, picturing them, as I write this. I love Jesus... I think his suggestion of pulling the shekels from the fish's mouth was the clincher for me. My favorite OT story is the General simply wading into the river. How very simple... says a lot about the value of theology(sp) Sorry, but I don't think you're going to see any Yale divinity school grads on this board anytime soon. Gotta go and look up the word exegesis. |
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3 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | Morant61 | 31886 | ||
Greetings JMHO! I hope by your comment about Yale that you aren't implying that only stupid people would believe the Bible is literally true! The Bible is like any other literature in some respects. It contains parables, figures of speech, poetry, narrative, history, ect.... However, it is unlike any other literature in that it tells the story of God and His interactions with man. Therefore, one cannot simply rule out anything as being impossible. Are we going to rule out the resurrection because it offends our sensibilities? Are we going to rule out prophecy because it is supernatural? The list could go on and on. Our responsiblity is to rightly divide God's word, and then to believe and obey what it says. This has nothing to do with education and everything to do with faith. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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4 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | JMHO | 31893 | ||
No, not at all... just that If Yale Grads were here, then you would have informed "dissenters". I still can't get over that word, dissenter.It's putting your position on the literal spectrum has the standard!!!! | ||||||
5 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | Morant61 | 31979 | ||
Greetings JMHO! Good, I would hate to be classified as stupid! :-) Just out of curiosity, how would you respond to the miracles that I mentioned in my former post? Are they more believable than a talking donkey or less believable? How do we decide? Do we use human sensibilities to pick and choose which miracles we believe or do we simply reject all of them? Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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6 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | JMHO | 32015 | ||
Of course, the resurection is the greatest miracle. But I don't see anyplace in the bible that says something like the Creation story has to be limited by linear historical truth...truth goes far beyond historic details. Perhaps,to God, history was not the perfect method for conveying perfect truths... considering human limitations Shakespere reveal more profound truths than any history book at the time. Pehaps our human minds can't even grasp the literal truth of the Universes' beginning, just like we can't even begin to fully grasp the wonders God . Who's knows... Does God specically/literally anywhere say that genesis is linear history???. To me history and profound truths are two totally different things Again, not dissenting or debating just searching. |
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7 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | Morant61 | 32020 | ||
Greetings JMHO! Thanks for the response! I agree that not everything in Scripture must be history. However, the text itself must determine what is and is not history. Accounts like the Creation account are presented in the text as history, though obviously not every detail is provided! :-) The average reader picking up Genesis for the first time would assume that it was an historical account. It speaks of God's actions. It speaks of specific periods of time, ect.... My primary concern though is not the Creation account, but the way in which we decide if something is literal or not. There are two definitions of 'literal'. The common one seems to be "something which is factual or historical". The one I prefer is "true in the sense it was intended". Based on the second definition, I believe everything in the Bible is literal. Just to prod our discussion a bit, if you don't reject the possibility of miracles in general, why would you have any problem with the accounts you mentioned in your earlier posts - i.e. the talking donkey, ect.? Once one accepts the possibility of miracles, then no miracle is improbable or less likely. Your Brother in Christ, Tim Moran |
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8 | Infallibility of the Bible questioned. | 2 Tim 3:16 | JMHO | 32149 | ||
Tim Thanks for the 2ond definition of literalism....gives me a staring point... a baseline... and more importantly,Hope that I can reconcile my intellect with ALL of the Bible The talking donkey is no big deal... just more poignant than the whole of creation. It's also funny, which I like That's why my favorite verse is Jesus's frustration and resulting sarcastic joke about doing a miracle (2 shekels in the Fish) for the silly temple tax. Sometimes, I juxtaposition that image against the image of that exact same frustrated Being on that freakin cross screaming out in utter agony has he enters the void... "Lord,Lord why has thou forsaken me"... that's HELL. That's why I love him. He certainly paid the price for me. And I guess that's what counts |
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