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1 | Help, parents need encouragement! | 2 Tim 3:16 | justme | 201418 | ||
Hank: I respect you highly, and it is with tenderness I am responding to you. I am responding to you as an Elder. I am not sure why there has been such a resounding theme that I do not think Scripture alone is Gods Word. I am in total agreement with THE CHICAGO STATEMENT ON BIBLICAL INERRANCY. I don't know of a more forceful and authoritive and detailed Statement of Scriptual trustworthiness and affirmation of inerrancy. I was asking for a book written by someone who had experienced the same hurt, as these parents feel so ashamed they are very discouraged. I saw nothing wrong in that. There are many Christian authors that use Scripture to base their books, and share how the Lord helped them with suffering of all kinds. I assure you and the forum these people are not looking for an easy fix. I do believe the Lord has used Christian authors to supplement what Scripture says. I was in no way attempting to be "somewhat critical of other users who had unequivocally cited the Bible above all other books..." I am amazed that the negative reaction in my asking if anyone knew of a book that could be helpful. I stated that these were Biblical Christians and the hurt was deep, and I simply wanted to give them something to see how someone else has done is such a situation. After reading a number of false assumptions, and criticisms, I am saddened. If we are to say that only the Bible is to be used to help us in our problems then we allow no other Christians to help us bare our burdens. I believe James 5:13-20 suggests we are to help one another. Galations 5:6, Matthew 25:40, James 2:15-17, Hebrews 13:16, John 13:34-35, are just a few verses that I consider Scriptures that give us reason to help a couple in need, be that material, physical or spiritual needs. I never even suggested that the Bible is anything but the higest, pure source of all our needs. Anything less is human and subject to the change in culture, and written by sinful mankind. I would not attempt to list the soild Christian authors, many I am sure you know and have read. I mean no insult to you in anyway whatsoever. I am but a beginner in my study of Scripture, compared with the Biblical knowledge many in the Study Bible Forum, I do not deny my shortcomings. What I find so bothersome is how easy it was to have negative, critical assumptions made against me. I am very concerned that rather than asking me for more information, or even saying someone would pray for this couple, the majority were faulting the lack of trust in Scripture, which most certianly not the case at all. I love you dearly my brother Hank! If I have offended you or others, that is not my intention. I desire a deeper understanding into what and why I was asking for help. Blessings to you and all. justme |
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2 | Help, parents need encouragement! | 2 Tim 3:16 | Hank | 201426 | ||
Hello, justme :: Thank you for your response and for the spirit in which it was given. As most of us long-time regular users of SBF know very well, it is easy enough to misunderstand as well as to be misunderstood. A Forum is not the same thing as a back-and-forth exchange of ideas and information in person. We try to smile with the use of the symbol :-) and stress our arguments with a !Beyond that we must rely solely on the written word. And it is a fact that we all of us sometimes fail to express in words exactly what is on our minds and in our hearts. To quote a famous line from the movie "Cool Hand Luke" -- "What we have here is a failure to communicate." ..... When you posted your question and followed it up by insisting on a recommendation by Forum members of a book or books by living authors that had to do with your question, I believe this set off a signal to some of your correspondents to defend the Forum's strongly held position of sola scriptura. That is to say that the normative procedure on SBF is to ask Bible questions and give Bible answers without giving precedence to secular works. Another way of putting the matter is this: While references to and quotations from certain secular works, such as orthodox commentaries, sermons, etc. are not prohibited on SBF and are generally recognized as having value to the extent that they may illuminate difficult portions of Scripture, they are in no wise to be thought of or used as an alternative to or substitute for Scripture. ...... Justme, it is my considered opinion that respondents on this thread such as Doc, Humbled, WOS and I were acting in good faith to defend sola scriptura because it appeared, at least to me, that secular works were being sought as the primary source of information with Scripture being used as a supplement or even an option. I believe that certain secular works, if selected with wisdom and discretion, can in some measure and to a limited degree help to EXPLAIN difficult portions of Scripture. That is the stated purpose of most study Bible, for example. I do not believe that any secular work ever SUPPLEMENTS Scripture. ...... Sir, I do not believe your intentions were to dishonor the word of God! Your post to which this is a response says as much, and I am perfectly willing to take you at your word. ...... So the mild brouhaha that has occurred on this thread was more than likely a matter of misunderstanding -- ours of your intent and you of ours. Let's let it pass and use it as a growing and learning experience. Let's not quibble about it any longer and let's not bear ill will one toward another. Rather let's continue to love one another and in all things strive to bring glory to our blessed Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Grace to you, justme. --Hank | ||||||
3 | Help, parents need encouragement! | 2 Tim 3:16 | justme | 201490 | ||
Hank:-) Often the words do not show the feelings that even come close to what I am attempting to convey. In thinking about my response to your note I took over night most of this day, I wanted to answer you last, and with a clear way. In one way this experience has shown the alertness of some more recent Forum members, who most likely new very little of me. How were they to know I was not a trouble maker, or like a Raven of some time ago on this forun. So enevn being frustrating and somewhat painful for me, the good turns out for glory to the LORD. I know I have grown by this experience, and it seems like most of my Chrisrian growth is learned and imprinted on my heart by pain. I assure you I was not wanting anything to take the place of Holy Scripture, nor as a supplement. What I wanted was someone who had written about an experience close to this couple, as they wondered if anyone else had gone this hurtful path ahead of them. I would never refer a book to anyone that did not use the Holy Scripture as the source of streingth and direction. I myself continue to hold Romans 8 as the source of encouragement in my many health issues. The Book of 1 John in my Bible has at times absorbed my tears. My wife and I take James 5:13-16 as our guide when faced with difficult serious, uncertian health problems. We honestly ask the LORD to keep us in the center of His will. In asking to be in the center of His will we do not ask for our will, and the answer is always what is His very best for us. Again I assure you and everyone else I never intended to for even a second give the opinion that Holy Scripture is anything less than the Owners Manual for Christians, the very Word of God. My deepest sorrow would be if anyone thought I believed such a horrid lie form the evil one himself. Thank you for your note and the encouragement, and belssings to you Hank! justme, Mike |
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