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1 | Michael ; Isarael's protector? | 2 Thess 2:7 | InGodITrust | 188044 | ||
Mark, You missed my post to you as Searcher56 responded. I just got through going over a very interesting web page that you may want to look at. I had never thought of Michael the arc angel as being the restrainer. I think we (all) have misunderstood who or what the restrainer is or does. Since we are discussing the "the tribulation" and Michael has always been Israel's protector (of sorts) then it may make perfect Biblical sense that if he (Michael) withdraws his protection Israel will be vunerable. As we know Isreal "is front and center" during the tribulation and the fore front of Satanic attack. Something to think about. Check out this web site: http://endtimepilgrim.org/restrainer.htm It appears the web site is sponsored by Messianic Jews......or friends thereof. I found it very interesting in light of what you said the genders of "he" are in 2 Thess 2:7. As I said, we gentiles may have thought of the restrainer "in a general way," while the Jews and tribulation days are clearly in the spot light (144,000); God's climax with Israel prior to the 1000 millennial reign. What do ya think? InGodITrust |
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2 | Michael ; Isarael's protector? | 2 Thess 2:7 | mark d seyler | 188067 | ||
Hi InGodITrust, So basically, you're saying that Michael the Archangel, rather than being the active protector of Israel, is the "keeper of the pit", and passively protects Israel by keeping at bay one of its foes? Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | Michael ; Isarael's protector? | 2 Thess 2:7 | InGodITrust | 188084 | ||
Mark, No, I am not saying that, nor does it appear that the church is the restrainer, nor (specifically the Holy Spirit) but those "in the know" seem to think Michael the archangel, based on Daniel, seems to be. I can not explain it as this whole area of study is new to me. That is why I gave you the web site: http://endtimepilgrim.org/restrainer.htm There (seems to be) some agreement among those who have studied this particular area that Michael has specific duties concerning Israel. I am completely out to lunch when it comes to discussing this subject, just thought it very compelling what that web site had to say. God Bless, InGodITrust |
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4 | Michael ; Isarael's protector? | 2 Thess 2:7 | mark d seyler | 188098 | ||
I'm sorry, I thought you agreed with the website you were recommending. On the whole, I found their argument unconvincing. If I stay with the straightforward reading of Scripture it seems fairly simple to me. "those "in the know" " - is this an appeal to authority? There are a great many who have studied this passage in depth that do not agree with this. And the idea of Michael as the restrainer of 2 Thess 2 is not a majority view. Thank you for clarifying this for me. Love in Christ, Mark |
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5 | Michael ; Isarael's protector? | 2 Thess 2:7 | InGodITrust | 188108 | ||
Greetings Mark, I do not know whether to agree or disagree with the web site, just thought you might find it intriguing. Thanks for the comback, seems there may be no clear cut answer for 2 Thess.2 InGodITrust |
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6 | Michael ; Isarael's protector? | 2 Thess 2:7 | mark d seyler | 188109 | ||
Hi InGodITrust, I've never been able find a conclusive statement in the Bible of who this restrainer is. I think we've discussed the prevailing theories. Thanks for the interesting discussion! Love in Christ, Mark |
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