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1 | Rabbi Mark, can you explain this verse? | Eph 5:33 | Searcher56 | 65710 | ||
Scripture ... Eph 5:33; Col 3:22; 1Pe 2:17; Rev 14:7, 15:4, 19:5 ... Rabbi Mark, Did you look at the word in the original? Phobeo (Strong's Number 5399) means "to put to flight by terrifying (to scare away)" ... and in this case to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience" ... I don't think you should be afraid. The same idea is carried elsewhere (Col 3:22; 1Pe 2:17; Rev 14:7, 15:4, 19:5). Please look at the original, and explain what this verse means. Searcher |
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2 | Rabbi Mark, can you explain this verse? | Eph 5:33 | Rabbi Mark | 65801 | ||
5399 phobeo from 5401; to frighten, ie (pass.) to be alarmed; by anal. to be in awe of, ie. revere:--be(sore) afraid, fear (exceedingly),reverence. is the exact entry found in Strong's concordance. Not quite the idea or the words you expressed above. The definition is exactly as I stated in my previous post. I would also have you know that the word translated to be fear in the New Testament is not always Strong's 5399. In some cases it is 870, 5401, 1167, 2125, 820. I'd go into all those definitions but I don't see the point. You either made a mistake. Or you misrepresented the definition to suit your purpose. Your mistake, Searcher is that you are starting from a preconceived position that may not be accurate and you are looking for facts to support that preconceived position. You should go in with no position and seek for Truth. That is what I do. That is the only way you will ever find truth. 2 Cor 7:1, and Ephesians 5:21, Phillipians 2:12 all support my position that fear is not only expected but commanded in the New Testament. You don't think anyone should be afraid. That is what you think. What you think does not matter. Get out of what you think and into what God says. We should not fear death. We should not fear evil. We should not fear the temptor. These are things we should not fear. But there are things we should fear. We should fear God. And the wife should fear the husband. And we should do this with an awe behind it not a paranoia as I think you and others on the Forum are supposing I mean. So for the record, I am saying to fear with awe -- not with paranoia. There is a vast difference. Searcher, I'm sorry if I sound impatient. But the Forum is not taking time to think. It seems they all have preconceived notions based on some faulty theologies that they just can't stop and let go of so that they can see what I am saying. Your entry above is an example. It is horribly flawed. On purpose? I hope not. I hope you were just looking at the wrong entry and copied it incorrectly. Why am I so adamant? Because Searcher. Aren't you aware that we are responsible for leading others. That we must lead them in Truth. Not with calming words that lulls them to sleep in the face of the enemy. They are asking serious questions. The answers for which can prepare them for victory or slaughter. The devil roams about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. Your a scholar. Or you are attempting to be. But the theology is not what will make you wise. It will make you sound good but it will make you ineffective. The Word of God will make you wise and effecective. Get with the program. Your responsible for souls here. |
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3 | Rabbi Mark, can you explain this verse? | Eph 5:33 | Searcher56 | 65855 | ||
Are you a rabbi? If so, how? You said ... "The definition is exactly as I stated in my previous post." ... Yet, I only see you talk about fear. As you pointed out we have more than one word that we call fear, from the Greek. You said ... "You don't think anyone should be afraid. That is what you think." ... That is not what I said ... I am not sure where you got that. You said ... "We should not fear death. We should not fear evil. We should not fear the temptor." ... Please cite Scripture. You said ... "I am saying to fear with awe -- not with paranoia." ... Eulabeomai may be the word you are thinking of, since phobeo and phobos gives a different view. We get our word phobia from this. Even when you cited the Greek definitions, show that there is more than one meaning. Which I already pointed out. Searcher |
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4 | Rabbi Mark, can you explain this verse? | Eph 5:33 | Rabbi Mark | 66268 | ||
Dear Searcher: Let me just briefly restate the facts. In your previous post you cited that entry no. 5399 in Strong's Greek Dictionary said: "Phobeo (Strong's Number: 5399) means "to put to flight by terrifying (to scare away)" ... and in this case to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience" I corrected your definition by copying the entry exactly as it appears in the Strongs Dictionary under that entry. 5399 phobeo from 5401; to frighten, ie (pass.) to be alarmed; by anal. to be in awe of, ie. rever:--be(sore) afraid, fear (exceedingly),reverence. Now compare your definition above and my definition below. Are they equal? Then you said, ... "I don't think you should be afraid. The same idea is carried elsewhere (Col 3:22; 1Pe 2:17; Rev 14:7, 15:4, 19:5).. But in your recent post to me you said that you never said that you should not be afraid. Your premise for the whole posting was that the English translations lead to misunderstanding. So I am not really quite sure what you were trying to say ... other than you misquoted the Strongs and you stated that you did not think we should be afraid. In your post you asked me to quote some verses relating to "We should not fear death. We should not fear evil. We should not fear the temptor." They are as follows: Matthew 10:28 "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and boy in hell. Hebrew 2:14-15, "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; And deliver them who throgh fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage." Hebrews 2:17-18 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted. Psalm 23:4 "Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil:" Psalm 27:1 "The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the Lord is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid." It is a constant theme through out scripture that we should fear the Lord but that He will deliver us from fear of death, temptation and evil. I thought you would have known this. But my previous post was an answer to you according to your statement that you don't think we should fear. If you didn't say that then what did you mean? Rabbi Mark |
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