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1 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | jlhetrick | 155784 | ||
I think you play on words here which is something I attempted to satisfy with my response. I'll repeat myself. I think/believe that the statement made in the verse "no one ever hated their own body" was a generalization that has nothing at all to do with your presentation here. It was a statement meant to represent the rational or "typical" thinking and behavior regarding the attentiveness shown toward oneself which should be in turn shown toward the wife (which is the point of the passage). The point of the passage is in no way to present an argument that definitively states that the human being is not and will not be capable of hating (or not loving) himself or his body. I believe the verse I quoted from Job demonstrates this truth. you wrote: "Do you think there is a distinction between "loving my life", "loving my self", and "loving my body"? I ask, if you love yourself do you hate your body? If you hate your body do you love yourself? If you hate your body and yourself do you love your life? It is perhapse this type of "reading into" the verse that caused the confusion and original question in the first place. From your question it appeared that you were sincerely seeking an answer to a lagitimate question but then you appear to be rejecting the feedback offered by those who have responded. Leaves me confused about your motives. Finally, you wrote: "When the Bible says "No one ever hated their own body," are you saying that it doesn't really mean that?" Please don't attempt to draw me into that familiar, weak, philosophical argument meant to accuse blasphemy. Questions such as these are only appropriate when the questioned did not offer appropriate explanation for his comment which I have done twice now. Jeff |
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2 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | DocTrinsograce | 155811 | ||
Dear Jeff, What in the world is this: "...meant to accuse blasphemy..." That's reaching pretty far. It implies that you can read Mark's actual intentions. Mark is only asking a question... and giving you opportunity to clarify your position. I saw no accusation at all. Indeed, I'd call the rest of the forum to point it out if I am mistaken. By your own admission you are pretty sensitive -- but accusing a saint of luring you into sin is branching far beyond simple sensitivity! In Him, Doc |
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3 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | jlhetrick | 155839 | ||
Hi Doc, You will have to read Mark's comments in their context to understand my statement you are questioning here. At no point in this thread (or any other) did I say or suggest that the bible does not say what it says. Rather, I question from time to time whether the bible says what other's might try to extrapolate from it. Context, context, context.... Jeff |
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4 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | DocTrinsograce | 155850 | ||
Hi, Jeff... Extrapolation is an indispensable aspect of communication in any area. All that the Bible says is true, although not all truth is in the Bible. Without extrapolations, we wouldn't understand anyone! Remember, there is only ONE interpretation (2 Peter 1:20) of any given Scripture, although there are many applications. You might want to examine the practice of hermeneutics in jurisprudence. Although folks are trying to do this same sort of thing with language in the legal system nowadays, the fundamental roots of a proper hermeneutic have been carefully worked out in jurisprudence. Interestingly enough, they have built upon the foundation of Scriptural hermeneutics. However, their logic stands solidly on its own. Good thing, too, or there would be nothing but confusion in our world. As those standards of good exegesis are abandoned, we will, indeed, see more and more confusion! Now I'm not saying that the study of law is our foundation. I'm saying that they articulate the principles very well. This is a very old argument. Orthodoxy faces it in almost every generation. Modern liberal interpreters -- believing themselves wise and original -- argue, "It isn't what the writer meant, it is what it means to me." Consequently we have a great deal of error in modern evangelicalism. In Him, Doc |
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5 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | jlhetrick | 155852 | ||
Doc, Thank you for your comments here and for supporting my argument. I find it a laborious task to ridirect the thinking of some who seek to understand the scriptures through understanding what they mean to them rather than seeing and understanding what the writer meant. Well said. Jeff |
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