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1 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | Bows44 | 155724 | ||
Dear Doc, Well at least this attempt makes more sense than the first. But I am not denying scripture by asking for greater understanding of it. I may not use the words you think I should use all of the time, but the intention is pure. By asking for understanding, I am admitting the problem is with my understanding and not the Word. Try thinking the best of me instead of the worst. 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 4 Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, 5 does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, 6 does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7 bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Yours in Christ, Bows44 |
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2 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | mark d seyler | 155754 | ||
Hi Bows44, Perhaps I can help with your original question of understanding suicide as self-love. Before I do, I would like to say along with Doc that I perceive in you an honestly inquiring spirit, who has come in gentleness and peace. My prayer is that we remain joined as the children of our Father. The Bible says that no man ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes it and protects it and cherishes it, therefore, that must be true. Obviously, it doesn't seem like it when we see someone who attacks their own flesh with the attempt to destroy it. But let God be true and every man a liar. So even tho suicide does not look like self-love, yet it must be. When I was in my late teens, I made several serious suicide attempts. I remember those days all too well. I was pulled off of train tracks probibly 40 feet in front of a freight train doing at least 60 MPH. A drug overdose that clinically should have killed me didn't. Praise the Lord He had His hand on me! And praise Him that those days are long gone! But the thing of it was, I knew suicide was wrong, but I didn't care, because it was what I wanted. And my life was all about serving me. Granted, I had some very misguided notions about how to serve myself, and pitting my gangly teenage frame against 60,000 tons of Southern Pacific iron was a poor way to nourish my body, but it was what I wanted. That was the key point. No matter what it was that I wanted, I was going to give it to me! No pain was too great, no fear too strong, to deny me what I wanted. And I wanted out, the easy way through life, it doesn't really matter what I my particular reasoning was, because, along with anyone who is suicidal, I was wrong. Wrong about me, about this world, about God. I had wrong ideas, perceptions, conclusions, and responses. But no matter, I will plan and spend and sneak and ignore the pain of razors to give me what I believe I need. This is how suicide is self-love. I was not about to sacrifice my own existance for others by staying alive so I wouldn't destroy my family along with me, or to live my painful life in service of others, oh no. Life hurt. I didn't want to hurt. I give me what I want. The depression, despair, emotional or physical pain that bring people to suicide are issues that they need to confront and deal with, but the actual act of suicide is strictly self-serving. Does this help you? Let me know. Love in Christ, Mark |
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3 | how can suicide be the same | Eph 5:29 | Bows44 | 155818 | ||
Dear Mark, Thank you for sharing your experiences...of struggle and victory...it did help. I pray that you may use that testimony to help other suicidals overcome and find hope and strength and salvation in Jesus. Your sister in Christ, Bows44 |
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