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1 | From whom does faith originate? | Eph 2:8 | Makarios | 37611 | ||
Greetings John! Reflecting back on Romans 10:17, not everyone who hears the Gospel will believe it. I wish that that were true! However, those who do believe it believe because of faith, since faith comes from hearing the word of God. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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2 | From whom does faith originate? | Eph 2:8 | John Reformed | 37715 | ||
Good Morning Makarios, Prior to conversion all men are DEAD in trespasses and sin. We were not capable of even understanding spiritual things. Paul is emphatic when he said "none seek God". John says we are not born again because of the will of man but by the will of God. I strongly disagee with the man glorifying doctrine of (so called) free will respecting salvation. It flys in the teeth of sound interpretation. It diminishes the Glory due to God by placing the ultimate sayso upon man. Meditate and pray when you contempate God's attributes. Read the scriptures that declare His soverignty. Reread Romans chapters 1 thru 3 and 9. They speak of His almighty power and our powerlessness. I realize that Ro 9 is particularly disturbing. At one time I could not believe it's clear meaning either. I thought it must mean something other than what it said! If you could tell me your interpretation, perhaps it would help. God Bless Makarios, John |
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3 | From whom does faith originate? | Eph 2:8 | Makarios | 37723 | ||
Greetings John! I have read through all of that which you have specified, and I do not see any contradiction to the Scripture verses that you have pointed out and the Biblical doctrine of free will. I strongly disagree with a doctrine that does not agree that there is no volition on the behalf of a believer concerning salvation. That flies in the teeth of sound interpretation. God in His sovereignty knows already who will and who will not be saved, and this is a topic that only serves to grieve the Holy Spirit by arguing about it hours or days upon end.. I'm sorry, my brother in Christ, but I have fought this battle before. I cannot and will not change my view to the "Reformed" view. Verses like 1 John 2:2 are crystal clear to me, and they need no explanation according to my view. What I find the most "disturbing" is how we got off track so quickly! Wasn't the original thrust of this thread talking about "faith"? If so, then we have regretfully changed the subject here to something entirely different. - Makarios |
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4 | From whom does faith originate? | Eph 2:8 | John Reformed | 37727 | ||
Dear Makarios, My arguement is from scripture not from man. Would tou be so kind as to enlighten me regarding your understanding of Romans 9. After all, if I am indeed misguided it would be only a simple matter of showing me where I err. Brother John |
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5 | From whom does faith originate? | Eph 2:8 | Makarios | 37746 | ||
Greetings John, Whether or not your interpretation of Romans 9 is correct is a much different topic altogether! I believe that this should be something that you should find alone, if you are in fact in error at all. I do not believe that I have hinted at the possibility that you were in error regarding Romans 9, and I do not believe that we have had any prior correspondence regarding Romans 9. However, Reformer Joe and I have talked at length about free will and election (look up Romans 5:6 in the "Questions/Notes on Verse" box), and very much has been written on both perspectives concerning both points of view. You only need to look up certain verses in the "Questions/Notes on Verse" box. Those verses are: Romans 9:10,15,16,18, and 19, which, I believe, are at the very "heart" of what you would like for me to address. Before I present to the Forum my verse by verse understanding and interpretation of Romans 9, I ask that you would at least consult what has already been written on the subject here, so that you may feel free to respond to what has already been written, and might possibly have all your questions answered at the same time. Blessings to you, Makarios |
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6 | From whom does faith originate? | Eph 2:8 | John Reformed | 37816 | ||
Dear Makarios, Pardon me, but the 9th chapter of Romans is about how faith comes to a person and where it comes from and on what basis it is given. Question: Who recieves faith? Answer: The children of the Promise (the elect) Proof: Rom 9:8 "it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants." Question: on what basis are the elect chosen (their decision or God's)? Answer: God's. Proof: Rom 9:16 "it does not depend on the man who wills or the man who runs, but on God who has mercy. Question: Is God unjust? Answer: No! Proof: Rom 9:14 "There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! Question: Where does man's faith come from. Answer: From God. Proof: Rom 10:17 "faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ." Question: Can everyone hear God's word so as to recieve the faith promised in Rom: 10:17 Answer: NO. Only by God's grace are we given the ability to hear spiritual things. Proof: Deut 29:4 "Yet to this day the LORD has not given you a heart to know, nor eyes to see, nor ears to hear. To God be the Glory, Your Brother John |
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7 | From whom does faith originate? | Eph 2:8 | Makarios | 37885 | ||
Greetings John! I am thankful that you have clarified your point of view for all to see. However, I really have no inclination to point out the perceived shortcomings with your view since I have seen it all before. I can do this, even though I may not entirely agree with you. So, pardon me, John, but I, Makarios, cannot be "lured" into any discussion on any topic if I have already first made the choice not to do so. :-) You will have to find your answers to your Reformed questions elsewhere. - Makarios |
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